CrossFit Discussion Board  

Go Back   CrossFit Discussion Board > CrossFit Forum > Digital Coaching
CrossFit Home Forum Site Rules CrossFit FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Digital Coaching Post pictures or movies for critique and coaching

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-28-2013, 09:18 AM   #21
Nik Nichols
Member Nik Nichols is offline
 
Nik Nichols's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Quinlan  TX
Posts: 21,383
Re: PR Backsquat - Questionable Depth

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean M Hutchinson View Post
I've had some pretty intense one rep maxes and the last thing I'm worried about is re-racking the weight, especially since I don't plan on doing anymore squats after that 1RM/max effort squat. It's not a big deal if you have bumper weights and the proper area to drop it. You're not going to get any stronger walking the weight back into the rack. Just my opinion.

Here's me squatting 200kg @66.5 then dumping it...lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtmCNrmLnuI
Dude you were throwing that bar off before you even stood it up all the way! You had not even finished the rep.
__________________
49/M/5'7''/175lbs ''Take pain.'' quote: Mr Jenkins
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 11:17 AM   #22
Robert Fabsik
Member Robert Fabsik is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kildeer  IL
Posts: 2,233
Re: PR Backsquat - Questionable Depth

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Alberga View Post
I take in the deep breath and hold, then tighten my abdomen just before I start the descent. Should I be trying to push my stomach out more as opposed to tightening my abdomen? I find that once the breath is inhaled and held, I can't push my stomach forward because my diaphragm is contracted. Am I doing something wrong?
Usually you want more of a buddha belly, filling your gut with air and pushing your abs out and to the sides. this will press against the belt and stabilize the core. This helps me stay upright and seems to lock the back into place.

Sounds to me you are filling your chest with air and pulling your diaphram in, this will deflate your base.

Try some with your gut out/air in belly more and compare. Obviously do this with a submaximal weight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 11:47 AM   #23
Sean M Hutchinson
Banned Sean M Hutchinson is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Shreveport  LA
Posts: 339
Re: PR Backsquat - Questionable Depth

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Hoffman View Post
Sean, you're some kind of man animal. A manimal, if you will.
I wish I could claim that as my nick name but I think Pat Barber already took it Maybe I can man Manimal Jr.!
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 11:49 AM   #24
Sean M Hutchinson
Banned Sean M Hutchinson is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Shreveport  LA
Posts: 339
Re: PR Backsquat - Questionable Depth

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nik Nichols View Post
Dude you were throwing that bar off before you even stood it up all the way! You had not even finished the rep.
damn, you're right...NO LIFT! I'll make sure I pause at the top next time before I dump it!
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 11:56 AM   #25
Brad Allen Jones
Banned Brad Allen Jones is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Muskegon  MI
Posts: 4,706
Re: PR Backsquat - Questionable Depth

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean M Hutchinson View Post
damn, you're right...NO LIFT! I'll make sure I pause at the top next time before I dump it!
Don't go down so low either..bad for the knees. Specifically your GCL.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 01:19 PM   #26
Nik Nichols
Member Nik Nichols is offline
 
Nik Nichols's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Quinlan  TX
Posts: 21,383
Re: PR Backsquat - Questionable Depth

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad Allen Jones View Post
Don't go down so low either..bad for the knees. Specifically your GCL.
I need to do the same too. Confidence in form.
__________________
49/M/5'7''/175lbs ''Take pain.'' quote: Mr Jenkins
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 01:51 PM   #27
Joey Shishineh
Member Joey Shishineh is offline
 
Joey Shishineh's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Columbia  MD
Posts: 1,029
Re: PR Backsquat - Questionable Depth

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Shuty View Post
Most feds define a legit squat as thw crease of the hips equal to or below the top of the knee....which makes yours a legit parallel squat.

But what's with the ridiculous weight dump?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Shuty View Post
I've never seen anyone dump at the top of a lift. You should have just been able to stand there and suck in some air then re-rack as normal.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Shuty View Post
I'll argue with him cause he's still an idiot. Can't wait until the needlessly dropped bar bounces im an unexpected direction and rolls up on the back of his ankles. I prefer strength with class. To me stuff like this cries of a desperate need for attention. Just let the lift speak for itself. These are the same reason I hate touchdown dances. You aren't the first person to do it and you won't be the last.....
I've never seen one person complain so much about one bar drop.
He backed too far away to begin with and couldn't walk it in.

FWIW, depth was questionable as stated in the title.
__________________
|12 Labours|
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 02:19 PM   #28
Lincoln Brigham
Member Lincoln Brigham is offline
 
Lincoln Brigham's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Kirkland  WA
Posts: 3,987
Re: PR Backsquat - Questionable Depth

Quote:
I've never seen anyone dump at the top of a lift.
For years I've been watching top level lifters dump their last squat rather than rerack it. Idalberto Arranda, Ivan Chakarov, Szymon Kolkecki, Klokov, Halil Mutlu, Behdad Salimi, Ilya Ilin, Pyrros Dimas, and on and on. It doesn't bother me in the least. More injuries occur when racking/unracking the bar than during the actual squatting. If someone thinks it's a big no-no, well I dunno maybe they should get out more often.

Lifters dumping their squats:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn7q7yRoy_I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcEsm...ture=endscreen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dul-TY1w0f0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jCldLNE9ss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7sXq9UAYuI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVzWtvUdeuk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC4IVHgbqxA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K837AwoIpFI

links are work/family safe

Last edited by Lincoln Brigham : 02-28-2013 at 02:27 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 03:16 PM   #29
Eric Shuty
Member Eric Shuty is offline
 
Eric Shuty's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Federal Way  WA
Posts: 511
Re: PR Backsquat - Questionable Depth

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lincoln Brigham View Post
For years I've been watching top level lifters dump their last squat rather than rerack it. Idalberto Arranda, Ivan Chakarov, Szymon Kolkecki, Klokov, Halil Mutlu, Behdad Salimi, Ilya Ilin, Pyrros Dimas, and on and on. It doesn't bother me in the least. More injuries occur when racking/unracking the bar than during the actual squatting. If someone thinks it's a big no-no, well I dunno maybe they should get out more often.

Lifters dumping their squats:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn7q7yRoy_I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcEsm...ture=endscreen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dul-TY1w0f0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jCldLNE9ss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7sXq9UAYuI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVzWtvUdeuk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC4IVHgbqxA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K837AwoIpFI

links are work/family safe
Last time I checked, the squat is a powerlift. You can do your cleans and snatches however you please. Last time I checked, 99% of top level powerlifters NEVER dump their squats like that. And the idea that most injuries happen during the rack/unrack? I never met anyone who got hurt in that manner...nor have I ever heard of it...or read a study backing it up. Just because you have bumper plates doesn't mean you need to celebrate it. I find it odd that a community so anal about form in most lifts has no problem with throwing weight off their back for no particular reason.

By the way, i know how to search youtube as well so the repeated posting of videos is getting a little old. I could post a a thousand videos of every top powerlifter not dumping the bar. There is a well known video of pat mendes raw squatting over 800lbs out of a freestanding rack. Somehow he manages to rack and unrack without destroying every joint in his lower body. I guess it is a mystery.

I guess I just need a better reason to dump my weights other than "because I can".....
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 03:27 PM   #30
Lincoln Brigham
Member Lincoln Brigham is offline
 
Lincoln Brigham's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Kirkland  WA
Posts: 3,987
Re: PR Backsquat - Questionable Depth

Powerlifters don't dump their squats because they don't have bumper plates. They use metal plates. It's that simple.

Weightlifting is a community which you apparently have had little experience with. You admitted you've never seen them dump their squats, even though it's a common occurance. It's okay to dump your lifts in weightlifting. Really. It's not "stupid" nor is it a "mystery" nor is it a "celebration".

If you come into an Olympic weightlifting gym and start ranting about dumped lifts like you're doing here, you won't get much of a welcome. It'll be like stapling a post-it note to your head that says, "noob from powerlifting".
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Backsquat Check Brian Blaston Digital Coaching 2 03-02-2012 01:33 PM
My backsquat and deadlift numbers Rivers Plowden Exercises 12 07-06-2011 10:14 AM
Backsquat Yahya Kohgadai Digital Coaching 5 05-14-2011 05:26 PM
My first 2x BW Backsquat Damon Stewart Testimonials 11 10-24-2008 05:10 AM
Squat depth vs deadlift depth Tim Morrison Exercises 7 01-27-2005 07:46 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:49 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
CrossFit is a registered trademark of CrossFit Inc.