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Old 02-14-2006, 02:10 AM   #11
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Gotta watch out for the aspartame, and something potassium as sweetners. Now, more and more they are using sucralose.
Personally. Just cut out the sugar. I ain't taking it for the taste. I got quite used to just chugging them down or mixing in something to hide the taste or drink afterward.
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Old 02-14-2006, 06:49 AM   #12
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Yet here's Marty all gung ho about the choloride in sea salt. Granted chlorine isn't cool to ingest, but, basically, civilization as we see it in the US today is founded on chlorine chemistries.

The vast majority of people don't have any problems with artificial sweetener usage. Some do. If you are one of them, simply avoid them. It's probably a good idea not to go overboard with them, either.

Frank, I've always liked the allthewhey products. I've used them for about 5 years now. To me they provide the best quality/price ratio and the taste has always been good.
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Old 02-14-2006, 07:08 AM   #13
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saw a protein powder review, seems to me a whey protein isolate is a whey protein isolate, it's all in the packaging http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/topicoftheweek15.htm
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Old 02-14-2006, 09:13 PM   #14
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Protein powders and meal replacements are different in terms of; Protein powders are generally designed for PWO nutrition, so they will be either high protein, low fat, low carb. Or, high protein, high carb, low fat. The high carb versions are stuffed full of bad sugars, so you get the insulin spike and the protein is then able to be absorbed better in the body PWO, these protein powders are consumed mainly by people wanting to bulk up and have low metabolisms. The low carb ones generally won't have as much bad sugars in them, so if you want the insulin spike, make a shake with it and some milk, or with a banana, which are both better atlernatives to a high intake of processed sugars.

Meal replacements are different because as the name states, it is a meal REPLACEMENT, so they make a quick drink which has added vitamins and minerals in it so it's like you have just had a 'meal' in terms of getting a bunch of vitamins and minerals into your body. Only issue with this is that the added nutrients are generally synthetic, your body can only recognise and absorb 3-18% of these fragmented substances (same goes for multi vitamins), so unless you are really low in something, for example iron, your body probably won't use much of anything else (which it is difficient in) and the synthetic chemicals are just going through your body and back out again..

Also with MRP, as it has been discussed previously on this board, the milk which is in the MRP is the 'calsium' instake. However, dairy is a bad source of calcium because of its acidity level, which causes the calcium to not be absorbed by the body. So getting your calcium source from vegitables (brccoli) and nuts (almonds) are better because the acidity of them is very minimal.

So all in all.. If you're looking at purchasing pre-made MRP, i would probably say that getting a protein powder, and making a shake with it along with some whole foods will be a better option, nutritionally.
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Old 02-15-2006, 01:06 PM   #15
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Wow. hey Nikki I'm going to have to start calling you Data. Good info though, however I have a question. What % of calcium is absorbed through milk. I am sure there is a certain % or we would never have seen those commercials that say "Milk..it does a body good!". Also, do you feel that low fat or skin milk is better?
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Old 02-15-2006, 07:39 PM   #16
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I've dealt with this company for over 5 years, owner will talk with you. Their site has grown and while it might look too slick, bottom line is you can mix your own formula's, add what ever sweetener, flavor and additives you want. Spend some time on this site, you will learn alot.

I DO NOT have any $$$ interest in this company.

http://proteinfactory.com/store/

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Old 02-15-2006, 08:10 PM   #17
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Hey Peter, I'm not sure on the actual % of calcium absorbed through milk (dairy). However, Dr.G mentioned on this thread http://www.crossfit.com/discus/messages/23/17966.html that the absorbtion of pasturised dairy is pretty much all unusable. Read the posts, its where i got most of my calcium info from!
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Old 02-15-2006, 09:28 PM   #18
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Thanks for responding Nikki. I'll definately check out the site. LOL
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Old 02-16-2006, 05:04 PM   #19
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Several opinions on calcium from dairy:

http://www.jonbarron.org/newsletters/news030707.htm

http://www.jonbarron.org/newsletters/news050620.htm

http://www.jonbarron.org/newsletters/news050620.htm

If you want to use whey, I'd suggest you look for a cold-processed, non-denatured, grass-fed version, along the lines of these two brands:

http://www.wellwisdom.com/

http://www.wellnesswatchers.com/back.php?name=product_protein&PHPSESSID=3650fb98 91a1e493294526dfc7b5176d

Protein Factory is way up there in price for pretty much selling standard proteins, IMO.
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Old 02-16-2006, 09:00 PM   #20
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Id be careful trying to push calcium into your system.... Your body down-regulates absorbtion pretty quick.

As a male, you probably have very little to worry about, eat yer veggies, and make sure youve got some vitamin D in your system, and your ok.

Women on the other hand....
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