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Old 02-07-2010, 11:39 AM   #1
Yahya Kohgadai
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questions about joining a box..

I wouldn't say I'm "starting" but I couldn't think of anywhere else to put this.

I CF'ed on my own for about 5 months w/the help and insite of two of my coworkers [we're trainers @ a globo gym] who have been doing it for a while. Then I took a break for about 4 months to work on a strength program. This past week I started CFing again.

I want to join an affiliate now. There are two that are really close to my work. Like most affiliates, they offer classes and one on one training. I was wondering if, for the more technical movments like the oly lifts, would attending the classes be sufficient or would I have to get some personal sessions in order to really learn it?

And if it's the former, how long does it usually take before you can do it on your own w/proper technique? I'm sure it's different for everyone but a rough idea is all I'm looking for.

Also, how do you go about finding out the affilates' merit? Like I said, there are two that are close to me. How do I find out if one is better for me than the other or if it's even worth joining?
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Old 02-07-2010, 11:53 AM   #2
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Re: questions about joining a box..

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I wouldn't say I'm "starting" but I couldn't think of anywhere else to put this.

I CF'ed on my own for about 5 months w/the help and insite of two of my coworkers [we're trainers @ a globo gym] who have been doing it for a while. Then I took a break for about 4 months to work on a strength program. This past week I started CFing again.

I want to join an affiliate now. There are two that are really close to my work. Like most affiliates, they offer classes and one on one training. I was wondering if, for the more technical movments like the oly lifts, would attending the classes be sufficient or would I have to get some personal sessions in order to really learn it?

And if it's the former, how long does it usually take before you can do it on your own w/proper technique? I'm sure it's different for everyone but a rough idea is all I'm looking for.

Also, how do you go about finding out the affilates' merit? Like I said, there are two that are close to me. How do I find out if one is better for me than the other or if it's even worth joining?
The quality of coaching on lifts varies wildly from affiliate to affiliate. Also keep in mind that the quality of instructors can vary a lot even at the same affiliate. You can get an idea of how a particular box teaches the lifts from their website and from speaking to them. You wont know for certain until you have attended the box a while though. If they have free weekend WODs, go to those. Don't sign a contract until you have a good idea what you think of them. Attending an affiliate is very, very expensive. Don't let them use emotion to get you to pay for something that isn't getting you towards your goals.

If you find a good coach, you will benefit from their instruction for as long as you stay with them. A mediocre coach will provide value for a few lessons. A bad one will be worthless from the first day.
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Old 02-07-2010, 12:27 PM   #3
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Re: questions about joining a box..

Look at the experience level of the coaches and the skill and technique levels demonstrated by the clients they coach. If the coach is allowing mediocre or dangerous form on 1RM-type lifts, then you can probably find a better option.

CF Oly cert is alright, but finding a coach who's got experience with competitive weightlifting or as a USAW-certified trainer would be a plus. A really good coach should be able to take even the most uncoordinated, unathletic person and get them doing passably good squats, cleans, and snatches with a decent amount of weight within a few months.Talk to current members of the gym and ask them where they started and how long it took them to get to their current level.
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Old 02-07-2010, 01:14 PM   #4
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Re: questions about joining a box..

If I lived where you did, and wanted to learn to snatch and clean and jerk, I would go directly to Catalyst Athletics.

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Old 02-09-2010, 05:51 AM   #5
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Re: questions about joining a box..

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Look at the experience level of the coaches and the skill and technique levels demonstrated by the clients they coach. If the coach is allowing mediocre or dangerous form on 1RM-type lifts, then you can probably find a better option.
I couldn't agree with this more. When I moved from Salt Lake to El Paso, I noticed a big difference in the experience level of trainers and management of the gym. Lets just say I miss Salt Lake a lot.
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:47 PM   #6
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Re: questions about joining a box..

Yahya, you are within spitting distance of Catalyst (SunnyVale) and Glenn Pendlay's (San Ramon) gyms besides Hassle-Free in SF and CrossFit1World in Union City. OneWorld is registered as a WL club with the PacWestAssociation of Olympic WL. OneWorld currently has a 2hr Oly class on Sat, 1hr on Sat but you need to have attended a clinic with one of their trainers to make the Saturday. CF1W, think Freddy Camacho and Jolie Gentry.

I say shoot them an email and perhaps inquire about private lessons with her on the lifts. Or shoot Greg or Glenn an email and inquire with them about some lessons. A few private lessons could bring you up to speed a lot faster than just instruction during the classes.

As well, in April there is an CF Oly cert in Pleasanton and Greg is having one in March in Chico.

There is also a USAW course this weekend at LaLanne CF in SF. http://www.lifttilyadie.com/PWA/10Schedule.htm wfs

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Old 02-11-2010, 03:35 PM   #7
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Re: questions about joining a box..

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If I lived where you did, and wanted to learn to snatch and clean and jerk, I would go directly to Catalyst Athletics.

http://www.gym.cathletics.com/ WFS
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If you are at all interested in learning the olympic lifts, it would be insane not to get coached at Greg's gym. There is just no way people who have attended a 2 day specialty cert are going to have the skill/knowledge to teach the lifts as much as a dedicated WL gym.
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Old 02-12-2010, 01:15 AM   #8
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Bare in mind, Glenn Pendlay has conducted the USAW course and is no slouch either. Check out his resume.
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Old 02-12-2010, 10:55 AM   #9
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Re: questions about joining a box..

Everyone listed is great. If I wanted to learn the lifts I'd train with Glenn.
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:28 AM   #10
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Re: questions about joining a box..

About the specific Olifts, go see a specialist , as it has been said. If any crossfit trainers has the audacity to tell/think they are GREAT O-lift coachs, in most of the cases they will end up being pretty bad.

Now I'm not saying that a crossfit trainer/coach can't be good at teaching them, quite a couple will teach more than good technique and develop you to a good level, but better than someone specialized in them and that has been around training olympic level or national level athletes?

Remember our speciality is not to specialize.

On the affiliate things, most affiliates offer free try out class, or inexpensive ways of "trying" them out. Go at those 2 affiliates, see the atmosphere, level of competence, and whatever else you would consider, and look for yourself, there's really no better way than experiencing it.

On a personal note, I would probably end up in Crossfit One World.
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