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Old 05-25-2014, 05:12 PM   #631
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Re: 2014 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread

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On the Games Facebook page:

"Basically, everyone's strong. ... All these top guys are getting really (expletive) strong. But now we wanted to show and highlight those who paid attention to the fundamentals of body-weight and gymnastics movements, and we put a premium on those. You still need to be strong, but you also need to show some excellence in those movements.
No one's getting a wild card and the right people are going to the Games this year."
—Dave Castro, Director of the CrossFit Games, during an interview at the SoCal Regional.
I think is great and exactly how it should be.
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Old 05-25-2014, 05:15 PM   #632
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Re: 2014 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread

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Thanks for posting that.. Still strange that they changed their minds before the regionals even finished.
I haven't bothered looking this up. Did the rules that there *would be* wild cards, or just that HQ reserved the right to pick some wild cards?

If the latter, then this wasn't a changing of their minds at all. It was just a choice not to pick any wild cards.

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Old 05-25-2014, 05:17 PM   #633
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That is a good idea, on the no wildcard thing.

Now, Castro should make the first Games event a "kill" event, such that a third of the field would be eliminated based on the score of that event alone. And, that event should be an endurance event, such as an Olympic distance triathlon.

Thus, those who have competencies in BOTH gymnastics and endurance will advance, and the weightlifting specialists alone will not. It would also put guys like Rich Froning and Jason Khalipa at risk for elimination, as they did not do well at these events in years past.
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Old 05-25-2014, 05:18 PM   #634
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I haven't bothered looking this up. Did the rules that there *would be* wild cards, or just that HQ reserved the right to pick some wild cards?

If the latter, then this wasn't a changing of their minds at all. It was just a choice not to pick any wild cards.

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Good point. Looks like you are right.

"New Wild Card Spots

Forty-three men and 43 women will be awarded spots to the CrossFit Games at the Regionals—that’s it. Even if a past champion qualifies, additional spots will not open up.

If CrossFit chooses to invite more than 43 athletes, the wild card spots will go to the athletes who performed the best relative to all other Regional competitors. The number of wild card spots will be announced following Regionals."
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Old 05-25-2014, 05:20 PM   #635
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That is a good idea, on the no wildcard thing.

Now, Castro should make the first Games event a "kill" event, such that a third of the field would be eliminated based on the score of that event alone. And, that event should be an endurance event, such as an Olympic distance triathlon.

Thus, those who have competencies in BOTH gymnastics and endurance will advance, and the weightlifting specialists alone will not. It would also put guys like Rich Froning and Jason Khalipa at risk for elimination, as they did not do well at these events in years past.
Except for the part when Khalipa won both the half marathon and the burden run (two longest events at the games last year)
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Old 05-25-2014, 06:21 PM   #636
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Except for the part when Khalipa won both the half marathon and the burden run (two longest events at the games last year)
Yep, and froning ain't that bad either, certainly not below middle if the pack.
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Old 05-25-2014, 06:30 PM   #637
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Another thing

I know this thing about other competitors cheering on the last struggling competitor in a heat is a crossfit tradition and supposedly shows the 'sportsmanship' of the competitors

Look at Mens event 5 socal where the other athletes were jogging up and down as the last guy finished off his rope climbs

Personally if i were that last guy, i would find it annoying and demeaning

It's like everyone else is saying "your sh*t, you need us to get through this event"

I would want everyone out of my bloody face and let me get on with it !
I jut find it funny how a couple of the announcers made it sound like crossfit is the only sport where competitors do that... Although yes it would maybe annoy me, depeding which athletes it was.

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Was anyone else surprised to see Dan Bailey struggle a little bit with the OH Squats in event 7?
Very surprised considering how much he snatches. Was ****ed he did so poorly on this event I think maybe he just came out of the gate to fast.

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That is a good idea, on the no wildcard thing.

Now, Castro should make the first Games event a "kill" event, such that a third of the field would be eliminated based on the score of that event alone. And, that event should be an endurance event, such as an Olympic distance triathlon.

Thus, those who have competencies in BOTH gymnastics and endurance will advance, and the weightlifting specialists alone will not. It would also put guys like Rich Froning and Jason Khalipa at risk for elimination, as they did not do well at these events in years past.
I agree the no wildcard spots is good.
I disagree with your premise of having elimination first event that is endurance...it's as ridiculous as me saying first event should be big 3 total or CFT total an elimination...in your scenario we'd likely be left with the weaker athletes and any strength events later on would be boring as hell, whereas in my scenario we'd most likely be left with the slowest athletes or athletes with least endurance, and that would make things not as interesting.

Not to mention the major fact that a crossfit competition is trying to basically see who is the best most well rounded athlete. So you'd want all you different athletes to get a fair shake at as many points as they can by the end of te weekend.

I'm going to guess because of your bias/hate on against the strength crowd OP is probably not the strongest guy and probably comes from a running or cycling background maybe even triathlon. I'm not saying strength is the end all be all, but let's all be honest what's more exciting to watch (in terms of televised event) a marathon or triathlon vs someone C&Jing 300+...and as much as it's about the competition reebok and hq have to make it entertaining, and most people would switch channels for a 2hr+ event.
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Old 05-25-2014, 06:42 PM   #638
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Was anyone else surprised to see Dan Bailey struggle a little bit with the OH Squats in event 7?
To be honest no, Bailey has struggled on overhead squatting in the past, the one that comes to mind is the nancy on steroids workout last year.

I will also add that the eliminating after one endurance event is a horrible idea, takes away from what the games is trying to do, in my opinion.
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Old 05-25-2014, 06:51 PM   #639
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My only qualm about not taking any wildcard spots is that there will actually be less athletes at the games than there were last year. Crossfit is getting more competitive and every year it is becoming more difficult to qualify for the games. Last year, if a past champion qualified, they did not take a spot. This allowed for 1, and sometimes 2, extra athletes to go to the games. This year they took that away AND are not gonna take wildcards. That's 5 spots (3 male and 2 female) that were eliminated.
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Old 05-25-2014, 07:08 PM   #640
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Re: 2014 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread

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Spealler for me the reason I feel he's overrated is because he's been around crossfit since pretty much the beginning, and the best he ever did was 2010 with 3rd and 2007 with 4th, since 2010 he hasn't cracked top 10, and last year he failed to qualify for the games...I just feel that for a guy who's been around so long, and arguably since the games were easier (less challenging due to less competition, and less highly skilled athletes) and he's never won it, and people make this huge deal about him, I don't get it. This is a guy who is touted as a legend...yet he's never won the damn thing and he's been at it since the very beginning, there are past champions who don't even get the PR/stigma he does.

At least with Bridges he's finished 2nd in 2011, no mention of 2012 and 7th in 2013.

Comparatively Spealler went 11th in 2011, 22nd in 2012 and not qualified in 2013...so he's essentially getting worse every year since 2011

Arguably the crossfit games have been getting harder every year since its inception, but I think we can all agree that especially since 2010 the games have been really getting cranked up a few notches in terms of level of competitors, amount of competitors, difficulty of events, etc...and it just seems like Spealler who is part of the old guard can't keep up. For Bridges this will be an important year in terms of proving if he can hang.
Fair enough. I can see your point. I think others have covered it. He is more of a guy who has been there since the beginning and I guess sort of embodies what they want the games to be about. Again, I think the increasing strength bias over the past couple years has not helped him. You have to give him credit he still competes at a very high level. Sorry I confused 2012 for last year. Forgot he missed last year.

There is no mention of Bridges in 2012 because he was on active duty deployment and I believe returned to the states just prior to the Games to have knee surgery.
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