CrossFit Discussion Board  

Go Back   CrossFit Discussion Board > CrossFit Forum > Nutrition
CrossFit Home Forum Site Rules CrossFit FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Nutrition Diet, supplements, weightloss, health & longevity

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-09-2014, 10:06 AM   #11
Todd Neal
Member Todd Neal is offline
 
Todd Neal's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Long Beach  CA
Posts: 317
Re: Food pairings

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cam Peavy View Post
Nope, no one seems to be talking about this at all.
Ok, you said that rice & beans won't be "digested equally." Nobody ever claimed that they would. I'm a huge advocate for low-carb; I'm the first one to admit that foods are digested unequally across the board. Sounds like you're just trying to argue for argument sake. Hopefully the OP is smarter than that.

Have a look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_combining (wfs)
__________________
"Know your engine first, then fuel it appropriately."
― Peter Attia
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2014, 10:28 AM   #12
Cam Peavy
Member Cam Peavy is offline
 
Cam Peavy's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Auburn  AL
Posts: 161
Re: Food pairings

Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd Neal View Post
Ok, you said that rice & beans won't be "digested equally." Nobody ever claimed that they would. I'm a huge advocate for low-carb; I'm the first one to admit that foods are digested unequally across the board. Sounds like you're just trying to argue for argument sake. Hopefully the OP is smarter than that.

Have a look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_combining (wfs)
OP is asking if food pairing is true or if it is bro science.. You claimed it to be true, so I am arguing against it. If food pairing was true, the science behind it would be found during digestion and absorption, not just "one compliments the other". If that was the case, every food would compliment every other food because it would have something that the other doesn't.

Note to Yourself: Don't post Wiki links as credible sources.
__________________
M/19/5'9"/182#
475 Deadlift, 415 Back Squat, 330 Front Squat
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2014, 11:45 AM   #13
Todd Neal
Member Todd Neal is offline
 
Todd Neal's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Long Beach  CA
Posts: 317
Re: Food pairings

Pretty sure science has found that calcium is fat-soluble. If you want to absorb calcium, you have to eat fat with it. At least that's my understanding of it.

Wiki is a decent place to start; I wouldn't be so quick to discredit it. It gives people a general idea of what I'm talking about and has some sources at the bottom of the site.

[You're so black & white, Cam. I'm just trying to give OP some things to think about and look into. I'm not trying to make absolute claims about anything. Give me a break, here.]
__________________
"Know your engine first, then fuel it appropriately."
― Peter Attia
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2014, 03:04 AM   #14
Bob Herald
Member Bob Herald is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Miami  FL
Posts: 353
Re: Food pairings

Thank you both for your opinions. Todd you're right, in nutrition there is no black and white. A little background on where this came

Here's a link to a friends website where he outlines his diet. His theory has to do with the body producing different enzymes to digest different foods. Take a look. Also he performs athletically at a high level.

http://www.bjjcenter.com/multimedia/...hp?ArticleID=4
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2014, 07:57 AM   #15
Luke Sirakos
Member Luke Sirakos is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Dallas  TX
Posts: 858
Re: Food pairings

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Herald View Post
Thank you both for your opinions. Todd you're right, in nutrition there is no black and white. A little background on where this came

Here's a link to a friends website where he outlines his diet. His theory has to do with the body producing different enzymes to digest different foods. Take a look. Also he performs athletically at a high level.

http://www.bjjcenter.com/multimedia/...hp?ArticleID=4
That guy is in fantastic shape, there is no way around that but everything he discusses is complete bro science and has been debunked. Does that mean you won't see success following what he advises? Absolutely not. His diet looks like he is hitting all of his targets fine but I seriously doubt the combination of macro ingredients (or the lack thereof) is the reason for his success.
__________________
Deadlift: 475 | Back Squat: 405 | Front Squat: 320
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2014, 12:02 PM   #16
Darryl Shaw
Member Darryl Shaw is offline
 
Darryl Shaw's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Manchester  England
Posts: 1,925
Re: Food pairings

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dare Vodusek View Post
I've read mixing carbs with fats will result in storing the fat directly, because when insulin levels are raised body will do anything to first burn/store the excess blood sugar, blocking beta oxidation (a fancy term for burning fats). This is confirmed by real science, so its not some bro science.

But I personally dont care about it, as I dont eat a lot of carbs in a first place.
I think you're forgetting there are two sides to the feed/fast cycle, and then there's the way in which energy balance affects the hierarchy of substrate oxidation and storage. So while eat carbs store (dietary) fat is true up to a point, it doesn't tell the whole story.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2014, 12:30 PM   #17
Darryl Shaw
Member Darryl Shaw is offline
 
Darryl Shaw's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Manchester  England
Posts: 1,925
Re: Food pairings

Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd Neal View Post
Pretty sure science has found that calcium is fat-soluble. If you want to absorb calcium, you have to eat fat with it. At least that's my understanding of it.
Are you sure about that? (wfs)
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2014, 01:01 PM   #18
Darryl Shaw
Member Darryl Shaw is offline
 
Darryl Shaw's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Manchester  England
Posts: 1,925
Re: Food pairings

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Herald View Post
Thank you both for your opinions. Todd you're right, in nutrition there is no black and white. A little background on where this came

Here's a link to a friends website where he outlines his diet. His theory has to do with the body producing different enzymes to digest different foods. Take a look. Also he performs athletically at a high level.

http://www.bjjcenter.com/multimedia/...hp?ArticleID=4
As Luke said this is bro-science. Food combining, basically the Hay Diet, was thoroughly debunked a long time ago. It's just pseudoscientific nonsense.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2014, 10:30 AM   #19
Todd Neal
Member Todd Neal is offline
 
Todd Neal's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Long Beach  CA
Posts: 317
Re: Food pairings

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darryl Shaw View Post
Nope, that's why I ended with, "At least that's my understanding of it." For those that won't look at Darryl's link (everyone), it explains that calcium...

...

I have no idea what it explains. If you figure it out, let me know. I did check out another source though which explains that different types of calcium (carbonate, for instance) has different solubility than other types. And another source pointed to water-solubility. So nevermind about that.
__________________
"Know your engine first, then fuel it appropriately."
― Peter Attia
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Food Inc. Sam Sang Won Lee Nutrition 6 08-07-2012 08:32 AM
Goodbye, Food Pyramid... Hello, Food Pie! Zane Jones Nutrition 31 08-03-2011 05:27 PM
Too much food!!! Melinda Caldwell Nutrition 9 03-22-2010 09:13 AM
Newbie Zone Q- do you buy food that conforms to the blks or conform the blks to food? Oleg Zhoglo Nutrition 4 02-22-2008 01:48 AM
Slow Food - Local Food Eric Allen Kerr Nutrition 5 08-24-2007 03:23 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
CrossFit is a registered trademark of CrossFit Inc.