CrossFit Discussion Board  

Go Back   CrossFit Discussion Board > CrossFit Forum > Exercises
CrossFit Home Forum Site Rules CrossFit FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Exercises Movements, technique & proper execution

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-28-2010, 09:34 AM   #21
Mike Mallory
Member Mike Mallory is offline
 
Mike Mallory's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Denver  CO
Posts: 694
Re: GHDs can change your life

The elite FTS article is a little shortsighted......We don't want mummy's, we want athletes that are adaptable and strong in strange conditions.

Neutral spine is good, but flexion is healthy too.......football players still get hit from behind and need a strong RA......so SOME abdominal stuff like that is good.

But, to train a fast twitch muscle (RA) for 30+ reps in the GHD style is not training in stability or functionality, its just metabolic adaptations. I wouldn't do that, but maybe HQ has that exact goal in mind? I don't know-

abmat situps however, are about as dumb as doing bicep curls.
__________________
Foam rollers suck!
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2010, 09:36 AM   #22
Carl Amolat
Member Carl Amolat is offline
 
Carl Amolat's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Fort Irwin  CA
Posts: 1,156
Re: GHDs can change your life

Quote:
The elite FTS article is a little shortsighted......We don't want mummy's, we want athletes that are adaptable and strong in strange conditions.

Neutral spine is good, but flexion is healthy too.......football players still get hit from behind and need a strong RA......so SOME abdominal stuff like that is good.

But, to train a fast twitch muscle (RA) for 30+ reps in the GHD style is not training in stability or functionality, its just metabolic adaptations. I wouldn't do that, but maybe HQ has that exact goal in mind? I don't know-

abmat situps however, are about as dumb as doing bicep curls.
Some of us, however, don't have a choice when it comes to cutting situps out of our training programs. All military and quite a few law enforcement fitness tests I've heard of require situps as part of their training.

That being said, I use such exercises sparingly. Just my $.02.

Anyway, to the OP, I hope for the best for you. I'd always imagined Pendleton and Balboa are always hurting for Corpsmen.
__________________
"We Clear The Way...So Others May Live."- Personal Motto Combining a WWII era US Army Corps of Engineers Slogan and the US Navy Search and Rescue Motto.

Last edited by Carl Amolat : 09-28-2010 at 09:43 AM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2010, 06:05 AM   #23
Jason Ashman
Member Jason Ashman is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Halifax  Nova Scotia
Posts: 154
Re: GHDs can change your life

Ego is a bad, bad thing to bring to a WOD, sir.

Lesson learned.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2010, 06:17 AM   #24
Scott Donchak
Member Scott Donchak is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Boston  MA
Posts: 203
Re: GHDs can change your life

I thought GHDs were supposed to be a hip flexor exercise? Obviously you'll end up using some abdominal strength, but the majority of the weight falls to your hip flexors if the form is correct. That's what I heard from my coach at the box anyway.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2010, 06:36 AM   #25
Shane Skowron
Member Shane Skowron is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Queens  NY
Posts: 3,800
Re: GHDs can change your life

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Amolat View Post
Some of us, however, don't have a choice when it comes to cutting situps out of our training programs. All military and quite a few law enforcement fitness tests I've heard of require situps as part of their training.

That being said, I use such exercises sparingly. Just my $.02.

Anyway, to the OP, I hope for the best for you. I'd always imagined Pendleton and Balboa are always hurting for Corpsmen.
I agree to some extent, although I've been able to maintain 100+ situps in 2:00 over the last 4 years or so without doing situps more than twice a month.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2010, 07:20 AM   #26
Steven Low
Member Steven Low is offline
 
Steven Low's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: silver spring  maryland
Posts: 12,221
Re: GHDs can change your life

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Donchak View Post
I thought GHDs were supposed to be a hip flexor exercise? Obviously you'll end up using some abdominal strength, but the majority of the weight falls to your hip flexors if the form is correct. That's what I heard from my coach at the box anyway.
Er, not really?

Locking the knees helps fix the pelvis via rectus femoris which actually decreases involvement of hip flexors and focuses it moreso on the abdominals..
__________________
Posts are NOT medical, training, nutrition info
Bodyweight Article, Overcoming Gravity Book
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2010, 07:34 AM   #27
Scott Donchak
Member Scott Donchak is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Boston  MA
Posts: 203
Re: GHDs can change your life

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven Low View Post
Er, not really?

Locking the knees helps fix the pelvis via rectus femoris which actually decreases involvement of hip flexors and focuses it moreso on the abdominals..
Hmm. Isn't that dangerous though? Isn't that an excessive amount of weight for the abdominals to handle?
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2010, 08:33 AM   #28
Thomas Green
Member Thomas Green is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: New York  NY
Posts: 1,156
Re: GHDs can change your life

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Mallory View Post
The elite FTS article is a little shortsighted......We don't want mummy's, we want athletes that are adaptable and strong in strange conditions.

Neutral spine is good, but flexion is healthy too.......football players still get hit from behind and need a strong RA......so SOME abdominal stuff like that is good.

But, to train a fast twitch muscle (RA) for 30+ reps in the GHD style is not training in stability or functionality, its just metabolic adaptations. I wouldn't do that, but maybe HQ has that exact goal in mind? I don't know-

abmat situps however, are about as dumb as doing bicep curls.

This is true too. The McKenzie stuff is very old and a lot of people have questioned it since then. I still like the analogy they use on EFS though.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2010, 08:33 AM   #29
Thomas Green
Member Thomas Green is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: New York  NY
Posts: 1,156
Re: GHDs can change your life

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boris Bachmann View Post
Agreed. Let's talk about sumo deadlift high pulls, knees to elbows, thrusters, and burpees to a 45 degree angle from the earth later.
Yeah, I've seen enough people get hurt from those
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2010, 01:35 PM   #30
Jesse Gray
Affiliate Jesse Gray is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Davis  CA
Posts: 545
Re: GHDs can change your life

http://www.crossfit.com/journal/libr...luteHam_SU.pdf WFS
__________________
My Box!
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Today's workout GHDs Mark Tibbetts Workout of the Day 2 08-07-2010 06:13 AM
paleo "change your life in 30 days" Scot Roeder Nutrition 1470 08-03-2010 09:54 AM
This minute I start: "Change your life in 30 days" Andy Mullins Nutrition 23 06-24-2010 10:12 AM
1 year can change your life * Before & After Pics Jeff Bowser Testimonials 31 09-10-2008 03:30 PM
Ghds Joe Bernard Equipment 3 12-04-2007 05:19 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
CrossFit is a registered trademark of CrossFit Inc.