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Old 07-23-2009, 03:58 PM   #11
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Re: Why do people hate Crossfit?

1. They've never done it
2. They haven't done it right
3. They haven't done it long
4. They found it difficult
5. They found they suck at a lot of stuff
6. They couldn't handle the previous point
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Old 07-23-2009, 03:59 PM   #12
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I don't think it has anything to do with "fear" or "lack of knowledge" in regards to strength coaches or olympic lifters. I think it has a little to do with the ego of the crossfit community. Sometimes we tend to come off as if crossfit has invented the movements and workouts utilized in our programming.
Bingo.

Not to mention HSPU's against the Berlin Wall, handstands in grocery stores, OH squating children, etc.

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Old 07-23-2009, 04:13 PM   #13
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Re: Why do people hate Crossfit?

Who is John Galt?
 
Old 07-23-2009, 04:27 PM   #14
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Re: Why do people hate Crossfit?

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1. They've never done it
2. They haven't done it right
3. They haven't done it long
4. They found it difficult
5. They found they suck at a lot of stuff
6. They couldn't handle the previous point
I think most people hate it because of this type of attitude right here.

My workout is better than your workout..... blah..... blah..... blah.....

Different methods to achieve different goals. Crossfit isn't any better than a bodybuilding workout. It is for me, because it fits my goals, but for someone looking to compete in bodybuilding shows, its terrible.
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Old 07-23-2009, 04:28 PM   #15
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Who is John Galt?
Good one!
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Old 07-23-2009, 04:30 PM   #16
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Bingo.

Not to mention HSPU's against the Berlin Wall, handstands in grocery stores, OH squating children, etc.

Ha, someone's been reading ***
 
Old 07-23-2009, 04:30 PM   #17
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Re: Why do people hate Crossfit?

It's not that people hate CF, people will not be friendly toward the way Crossfitters display themselves publicly. Not all Crossfitters but a lot. Remember there was an article written called "Crossfitters, be nice"? Not everyone is or wants to do Crossfit, because let's face it, CF typically promotes itself as cult like, and the general public does not tend to go in that direction. Crossfit is also a generalist program whereas there are many people who prefer specializing or periodizing becuase of specific goals. And goals/planning should always form the basis of training.

This has been my experience through hearing other peoples opinions. Yes a lot of it is also simply ignorance and unwillingness to learn different styles but there are always multiple sides to any issue.
 
Old 07-23-2009, 04:33 PM   #18
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I think the idea of GENERALIST fitness instead of SPECIALIST fitness is bound to be unsavory to a lot of experts, who make their living training people who can only do one specific range of tasks really well. As far as I've read, Crossfit really does issue a pretty unique challenge: to become good at MOST things, good enough to be competitive alongside specialists but without being a specialist. I can see a lot of experts being really threatened by that, actually. What? You mean my athletes don't have to be unbalanced freaks to be good at their sport? Bah humbug.
I think that's part of the reason.

From the bodybuilding side: A well designed heavy barbell program builds more muscle than Crossfit, and Crossfit's main "benefit' is therefore considered to be the metabolic conditioning (ie. we are known for having capacity in conditioning workouts, not really for our strength or huge muscles).

From the powerlifting side: They don't need the conditioning as much. Crossfit is counterproductive for powerlifting.

Strongman: They probably don't care about doing the lighter conditioning work (like Filthy Fifty).

Long distance runners: Not enough specialization. Best marathon runners are not Crossfitters, or, as far as I know, not CFE people either.

Frankly, most people do not need to be "prepared for any eventuality." We live in a fairly safe society, and if somebody mugs you with a gun, Crossfitter or not, you are probably screwed.

Most people don't train for combat. They just wanna be big, lift a lot of weight, impress their wives/husbands with their new bodies, run their races with some buddies, have fun doing their sport etc... Crossfit may be too intense for those people and not suited for the needs of a specialist and therefore they do not like it, fear it, or admire it from afar just as a lot of people on this forum say that marathon runners aren't really fit cause we can crush them with deadlifts and that powerlifters can't run like we can ...
We aren't exactly much better in terms of attitude. :stir:

Personally I don't really care how people train as long as they use proper technique and have their goals straight (so they don't run around in circles, wondering what they should be doing). If they can teach me something about exercise that I didn't know, the better.

PLUS: You can say a lot on the internet, you wouldn't say in real life.
 
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As far as I've read, Crossfit really does issue a pretty unique challenge: to become good at MOST things, good enough to be competitive alongside specialists but without being a specialist. I can see a lot of experts being really threatened by that, actually. What? You mean my athletes don't have to be unbalanced freaks to be good at their sport? Bah humbug.
Define competitive.

Give examples of cross-fitters who train exclusively using crossfit who are competitive with the best. Those who use occasional crossift or crossfit-like workouts wouldn't qualify, because that's just cross-training, which has been around for decades.

As someone who has competed at a high level in several sports that required distinct skills, I didn't have to become a freak, but I did have to specialize. And more specialization would have made me more successful.
 
Old 07-23-2009, 04:51 PM   #20
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Ha, someone's been reading ***
I've been reading that lately actually (in fact, it's how I came across this thread) and I've got to say with the pictures they post up a lot of people in the CrossFit community really do make it easy. The banner at the games about dominating other athletes while the reporting on how the arm wrestling went has been conspicuous in its absence, for example.

Most of the lifters on other forums I've seen that dislike it just don't like the Kool Aid mentality. I don't like it a whole lot, but I'm interested enough in what CF has to offer that I can get round it without it bothering me too much.

And here's a question that's been bugging me about the *** hate: why do they call CrossFit "@fit"? Is it supposed to be derogatory? Are you guys offended by it? Doesn't make any sense to me. I'd sign up and ask, but I don't really want to.

Oh, and this might come across a little - or a lot - *****y, but I don't really care. It was most entertaining when I read the blog of someone (no need to name names, not that *****y) on there who always criticises stupid "@fit" programming for not producing strong people. Well he was squatting under 300 lbs for singles, and missing reps. Well maybe you guys are too mature to find that funny, but I did.
 
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