CrossFit Discussion Board  

Go Back   CrossFit Discussion Board > Community > Community
CrossFit Home Forum Site Rules CrossFit FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Community Catch all category for CrossFit community discussion.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-22-2006, 05:18 PM   #1
Andrew G. Greenberg
Member Andrew G. Greenberg is offline
 
Andrew G. Greenberg's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Charlotte  NC
Posts: 623
does anybody know anything about these guys?
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2006, 05:38 PM   #2
John Velandra
Member John Velandra is offline
 
John Velandra's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Fayetteville  NC
Posts: 710
Yes... one of my traiers went through the process and started to find out things were misrepresented. I personally would steer clear of it.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2006, 06:40 PM   #3
Andrew G. Greenberg
Member Andrew G. Greenberg is offline
 
Andrew G. Greenberg's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Charlotte  NC
Posts: 623
can you say how things were misrepresented?
i'm looking at working there, not getting certified. my certification dollars are reserved for crossfit.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2006, 06:50 PM   #4
Garrett Smith
Member Garrett Smith is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Tucson  AZ
Posts: 2,264
Their test was the strangest thing I've ever taken.

In all seriousness, it was like this. Here's a word (orange). Here's four answers (lemon, lime, cucumber, raspberry). Pick the one answer that is related to the first word and doesn't relate to the others. If it doesn't relate, explain why not.

I took the test (for free, thank goodness) to become a "trainer" and "test supervisor" of people who wish to take their tests. I've got my medical degree, a bachelor's in physiology, 12 years in the personal training biz, and have had exercise certifications from four different exercise organizations. I was several points shy of passing. It was the most bewildering experience of my life.

I wrote them and said maybe they might want to rework their exam a bit. Never heard back. Maybe the questions were too hard for me due to an overly-extensive background and an ability to draw connections between things that were not expected (thus making answering really hard oftentimes).

They sure seem to be always looking for new "trainers of trainers". I wonder why...:crazy:
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2006, 09:09 PM   #5
Andrew G. Greenberg
Member Andrew G. Greenberg is offline
 
Andrew G. Greenberg's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Charlotte  NC
Posts: 623
so its like a diploma mill that fails everyone...
they pass off incomprehensibility as rigor?
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2006, 08:29 AM   #6
Andrew G. Greenberg
Member Andrew G. Greenberg is offline
 
Andrew G. Greenberg's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Charlotte  NC
Posts: 623
just though i would share with the crossfit community my interview with scirion..

the interviewer asked me for my favorite three exercises that work the triceps.

my answer: "well, my favorites for triceps would be overhead squat, snatch, and clean and jerk."

Q: "those are leg exercises."
A: "i would argue they are total body exercises, including the triceps. i don't isolate muscle group in training.

Q: you don't isolate muscle groups?
A: in my own training, no. however, some clients prefer segmented training, so i try to accomodate the client.

Q: thanks, i'll get back to you. (paraphrased).



hope i didn't talk myself out of a job!
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2006, 09:03 AM   #7
Garrett Smith
Member Garrett Smith is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Tucson  AZ
Posts: 2,264
Andrew,
You may have done just that--talked yourself out of a job.

I remember that question, and I "sold out" on my answer--I believe I said "lying DB tricep extensions, dips, and rope cable pushdowns". Yuck. I feel so dirty.

C'est la vie.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2006, 09:14 AM   #8
Andrew G. Greenberg
Member Andrew G. Greenberg is offline
 
Andrew G. Greenberg's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Charlotte  NC
Posts: 623
yeah, i definitely had that one microsecond of indecision where i wasn't sure which way to go...
i am very bad at telling people what they want to hear, *especially* when it comes to exercise....a little too frank for my own good.

oh, well. out of my hands now!
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2006, 07:48 AM   #9
Jason Erickson
Member Jason Erickson is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Minneapolis  MN
Posts: 198
Better to not sell out. In training my clients, I don't use ANY methods that I don't believe in.

Sure, some clients/potential clients still think they need those other things, but that's my job as a trainer: to educate them. If they refuse to listen or learn, I turn them away. Life is too short and there are plenty of other people in need.

I was asked to teach a class on core training. Tempted, I asked if I was free to teach it my way. I was informed that I'd need to use a number of stability ball exercises for the bulk of the class, but I could "add a few of your own things at the end." I turned this offer down. Why waste 50 minutes on ball crunch variations when I can spend 15 minutes and nail their entire core in one exercise with a progression for those unable to perform it immediately?

I also don't do isolation exercises, boot camps, random circuit training, ad nauseum. Each session I run is crafted to meet the specific needs of the athlete at that moment, with a clear picture of what we are attempting to accomplish, and I give them "homework" to practice for the next session, which helps keep them on track and speeds their progress.

The other trainers I work with openly admit they don't understand what I do, but they can see that it works. Stick to your principles in the immediate face of adversity. Adjust them privately as experience and wisdom dictate.

Garrett - you are WAY overqualified... obviously your knowledge and experience would impede success.:crazy:
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2006, 10:15 AM   #10
Andrew G. Greenberg
Member Andrew G. Greenberg is offline
 
Andrew G. Greenberg's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Charlotte  NC
Posts: 623
yes, i agree with you to a great extent, however there is something to be said for putting food on the table. i am a grad student working on my thesis, and i should have thought about how much i needed the money. too late now.
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Physiology question Josh E Lundgaard Fitness 24 11-17-2009 09:53 AM
Institute 3E Anthony Bainbridge Community 5 12-08-2006 05:11 PM
Muscle Physiology Frank M Needham Fitness 2 10-29-2006 11:54 AM
Basic physiology of strength question Sean Manseau Fitness 20 08-03-2006 08:42 PM
SCARS Institute Ralph Fitness 30 03-30-2004 04:26 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
CrossFit is a registered trademark of CrossFit Inc.