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Old 07-09-2013, 09:40 PM   #1
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Ok, I am reformulating my multi-vitamin supplement. I would love to hear thoughts (with supporting documentation) on what should be included to include safe/effective forms of various vitamins or minerals. I have a basic formula already laid out, but am always open to good ideas from others.
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:06 PM   #2
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Re: Your help/ideas

ZMA

Potassium

I know VitD is great and 400iu is in most supplements but it's so low I don't see the point. Especially as many people are doing exogenous VitD supplements that start at 1k iu up to 10k iu.

Ginseng, ginko bilboa?

CoQ10 (which is expensive I think)?

VitK?
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Old 07-10-2013, 06:53 AM   #3
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My humble suggestions:

1) I would love a multi that contains “Folate” or “5-methyltetrahydrofolate” or “5-MTHF” instead of the synthetic “Folic Acid”. Most multi’s contain folic acid (as I believe it is less expensive) but there is growing concern that folic acid is connected to increased rates of cancer, especially colon cancer.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/35874922/n...ng-you-cancer/

http://chriskresser.com/folate-vs-folic-acid

2) No Iron

http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iro...hProfessional/

“Iron deficiency is uncommon among adult men and postmenopausal women. These individuals should only take iron supplements when prescribed by a physician because of their greater risk of iron overload.”

“Some evidence suggests that iron can stimulate the activity of free radicals. Free radicals are natural by-products of oxygen metabolism that are associated with chronic diseases, including cardiovascular disease. Free radicals may inflame and damage coronary arteries, the blood vessels that supply the heart muscle. This inflammation may contribute to the development of atherosclerosis, a condition characterized by partial or complete blockage of one or more coronary arteries. Other researchers suggest that iron may contribute to the oxidation of LDL ("bad") cholesterol, changing it to a form that is more damaging to coronary arteries.”

3) Phylloquinone (vitamin K1) and MK-7 (Vitamin K2)
http://examine.com/supplements/Vitamin+K/

4) Dietary calcium is beneficial, but supplemental calcium has a much spottier record. Therefore, minimal amounts of calcium in the multi.

One example: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23381719

“Our findings suggest that high intake of supplemental calcium is associated with an excess risk of CVD death in men but not in women.”
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:40 PM   #4
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Yep, I have already ruled out iron and calcium. And yes, I am going to look into Folate. I was just reading an article about it.

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Old 07-10-2013, 05:42 PM   #5
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Anyone else? I know there are research maniacs here.
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:06 AM   #6
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Anyone else? I know there are research maniacs here.
like, oh say.....Mr. Shaw?
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Oh, please no. I'm glad this isn't Facebook and you just tagged him.
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:15 AM   #8
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http://www.drmelsiff.com/10352/russi...lism-and-diet/ WFS

You might get some ideas from this. Lots of B if your product doesn't already have a sleu?
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http://www.drmelsiff.com/10352/russi...lism-and-diet/ WFS

You might get some ideas from this. Lots of B if your product doesn't already have a sleu?
Thanks, I will read it. Definitely the B spectrum will be in there. In terms of dosing I am leaning towards being a bit more conservative as the more I research the more I am inclined that way for both safety and no additional benefit from excessive dosing.
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