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Old 02-18-2009, 05:43 PM   #1
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Butterfly Kip cycle time

I took the opportunity to record myself doing butterfly kips during today's death by pullups. One thing that I noticed is that my cycle time for kipping looks a lot slower than it feels when I'm doing them. However, it feels like I'm going as fast as possible.

I think if I try to go any faster my legs would start swinging below my body, turning my body into a pendulum, and I would lose speed overall. Any suggestions on how to increase cycle time while reducing lower body momentum? I feel like it has something to do with transferring the momentum from my legs to my upper body, but I'm at a loss...

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Old 02-18-2009, 06:10 PM   #2
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Re: Butterfly Kip cycle time

I think your grip needs to be substantially wider. It looks like that thing you were pulling up on might be limiting the width. Hard to tell.
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Old 02-18-2009, 06:55 PM   #3
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Re: Butterfly Kip cycle time

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I took the opportunity to record myself doing butterfly kips during today's death by pullups. One thing that I noticed is that my cycle time for kipping looks a lot slower than it feels when I'm doing them. However, it feels like I'm going as fast as possible.

I think if I try to go any faster my legs would start swinging below my body, turning my body into a pendulum, and I would lose speed overall. Any suggestions on how to increase cycle time while reducing lower body momentum? I feel like it has something to do with transferring the momentum from my legs to my upper body, but I'm at a loss...

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Old 02-19-2009, 01:48 AM   #4
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Re: Butterfly Kip cycle time

You are pausing for a moment at the bottom as you kick and that is what is slowing down your cycle time. This is probably killing your momentum and increasing your overall work since you aren't being efficient with transferring the momentum.

I've worked slowling down the cycle time to stay paced but we don't need that hitch in the cycle, imo unless there is a reason.

I prefer the BFK starting off with a wide arm pullup grip similar to the distance of finding snatch width ( scarecrow arms with elbows at 90 ). Still it can be done just wider than parallel but it's easier to hit CTB with the snatch grip.
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Old 02-19-2009, 12:38 PM   #5
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Re: Butterfly Kip cycle time

I've also noticed that you were slowing yourself quite a bit on the negative part of you pull ups. I find it's a lot faster to explode up and then let yourself drop back down in a circular motion. Let centrifugal force take over and you start right back up the other side of the circle. (That's why I like to call it Buzz-saw kipping when I get going really fast :P)
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