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Old 10-03-2009, 04:07 PM   #1
Darren McDermott
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High fat /aromatose

Excuse any lack of technical knowledge.

I started taking an omega3 /omega6 oil blend tablespoon before bed .
Pretty good strength burst , good fullness in muscles . Great !
Slight sensation in left nipple -bad !

So if aromatase converts androgen into estrogens via aromatization is dropping the oil must be done to prevent and gynecomastia from occuring?

-the oil blend is the only addition to my eating habits ,and I avoid all soy products l
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Old 10-03-2009, 08:22 PM   #2
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Re: High fat /aromatose

1. You are probably imaging things.

2. Take an oil with omega-3 fats only. You get enough omega-6 fats from your diet as it is, no sense in adding more.
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:20 PM   #3
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Re: High fat /aromatose

Gyno requires so much estradiol, the extra testosterone required could only come from an outside source, i.e, steroid pills or shots. If omega fatty acids could somehow lead to that much extra t, Upjohn and Schering would own their own fishing fleets and cod liver oil would be a Rx item.

There's no process by which a normal level of testosterone can be converted to enough estradiol to cause gyno and no non-Rx substance that can create enough testosterone that leads to gyno.

Forget the aromatase angle, that's not even on the radar. It's the quantity of testosterone the aromatase has to work on that's key.

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Old 10-04-2009, 02:44 AM   #4
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Re: High fat /aromatose

What about genetic gynecomastia? Does it run in the family at all?
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:58 AM   #5
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Re: High fat /aromatose

From nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus:

“Other causes include:
* Aging
* Cancer chemotherapy
* Chronic liver disease
* Exposure to anabolic steroid hormones
* Exposure to estrogen hormone
* Kidney failure and dialysis
* Marijuana use
* Hormone treatment for prostate cancer
* Radiation treatment of the testicles
* Side effects of some medications (ketoconazole, spironolactone, metronidazole, cimetidine (Tagamet))
* Testosterone (male hormone) deficiency

Rare causes include:
* Genetic defects
* Overactive thyroid
* Tumors”

Maybe you should see a doctor.
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Old 10-04-2009, 03:47 PM   #6
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Re: High fat /aromatose

I had a lump removed from under my left nipple 2 months ago. The biopsy showed it was gyno. It grew back with in a month. I have a pretty high fat diet. Eat mostly paleo. Lots of fish oil, zyflammend(had some tendonitis in my elbow), multi, occasional shake. Very lean build, 6' 1" 170 lbs right now. Lost a few pounds due to the tendonitis. I am also curious if the high fat could be causing this. It is very tender to the touch. The only supplement that remained constant through this was the fish oil.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:43 PM   #7
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Re: High fat /aromatose

I guess there's more to this than I thought. I'd like to know more about the issue.

How would you establish a link between fat intake and gyno? (or has it been done?)
Is it all fat/any fat, or specific categories?
Maybe it is not fat as such but rather something in the metabolic pathways that use fat?
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:51 AM   #8
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I also went to an endocronologist and had testosterone, estrogen, prolactin and several other levels checked all came back normal. I was reading that if if a lump isn't fully removed it can grow back
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:20 AM   #9
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Re: High fat /aromatose

Look, a lot of people have genetic gynecomastia. It's not super uncommon or rare.

Also, removing a lot of the gland but not all of it is a better idea from what I hear. If you remove it all you might get a weird sinking look in the chest. But i'm not a surgeon.. Just going on my own research.
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:22 AM   #10
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Re: High fat /aromatose

Justin,

WHats the doctors background? Have they treated alot of people with hormone issues? Did they measure free test or just total/serum?

Another point is that you can have "normal" levels and still not be in good shape. The range of "normal" test and estrogen is so big as to be pretty much worthless.
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