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Old 08-07-2012, 01:34 PM   #41
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Re: Dropping the deadlift?

It all comes to down to necessity vs. preference for me and those in my gym.

If you HAVE to drop the Deadlift then there is a problem. It could be grip strength or lack of strength in the low back/hams to even remotely control the weight down. Either way, the way to train to not have those issues is certainly not being helped by continuing to drop the weight.

The same goes for so many other movements that have already been mentioned. If you cannot do a strict handstand push-up or strict pull-up AT ALL, then you shouldn't be doing kipping versions (talking more men here but even the women I train can do at least 1 strict, it is just more efficient for them to kip) There is a major difference between

" I sub strict pull ups with kips because that is the only way I can get over the bar"

and

"I can do strict pull-ups but I chose to kip them to get the work done faster".

The same can be said for

"I do kipping HSPU because if I don't, I cannot lock out at the top and even complete 1 rep"

vs.

"I started with strict HSPU for speed but after the 2nd round, I was exhausted so I had to start kipping them".

Learn the strict versions and be able to do them. Once you know the rules, then you should be allowed to break them.
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Old 08-07-2012, 01:41 PM   #42
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Re: Dropping the deadlift?

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just going to leave this right here......

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how much was that?


IMO, for 1RM, you should lower the weight.
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:33 PM   #43
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how much was that?


IMO, for 1RM, you should lower the weight.
Less than his best contest clean and jerk.
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:04 PM   #44
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You also see weightlifters dump their last rep of a set of back squats for no good reason.
I do this because it's easier to strip the weight off the bar when it's on the floor.
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:36 PM   #45
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I do this because it's easier to strip the weight off the bar when it's on the floor.
Are you being sarcastic? How is it easier than stopping it off a bar that is on the rack at chest height?
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:37 PM   #46
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I drop it if I'm using bumpers. I don't worry about the rep being legitimate if I drop it because I've never pulled one up that I couldn't control down.

Plus, dropping it sounds cooler.
Finally an honest man! This is exactly why most people I see doing it do it....because when I see it done it is at commercial gyms with metal plates. Which is prob why it annoys me so much....
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Old 08-07-2012, 10:48 PM   #47
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...another trainer at my affiliate mentioned 'an article he read' saying it being bad for your spine to drop the load. Something about the quick release of tension on the discs. Please, read this loosely, as I have yet to read that anywhere myself...would be nice is anyone else heard about it being 'medically' bad for you, rather than just getting red lights in a meet.

I myself lower almost evertime, knowing it is building strength. As most of yall, I will drop singles now n then.
I my humble experiance of deadlifting, if i were to just drop a load, it seems thatg it would not be of anykind of benifit. In fact, if I am going for reps it feels better to keep most the load on while touching thouching thee lama, err I mean ground.
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:58 PM   #48
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Are you being sarcastic? How is it easier than stopping it off a bar that is on the rack at chest height?
When it's on the rack, you can only take one plate off at a time. On the floor you can take all of one side off in one go.
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Old 08-08-2012, 04:44 AM   #49
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When it's on the rack, you can only take one plate off at a time. On the floor you can take all of one side off in one go.
With the bar in the rack, the weight is more distributed. You can usually have at least 3 (maybe even 4) plates on one side and zero on the other. If the bar is on the floor, you have to deal with extra friction when pulling off the weight.
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Old 08-08-2012, 06:04 AM   #50
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With the bar in the rack, the weight is more distributed. You can usually have at least 3 (maybe even 4) plates on one side and zero on the other. If the bar is on the floor, you have to deal with extra friction when pulling off the weight.
I have to admit I've never tried that.
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