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Old 02-01-2010, 09:29 PM   #1
Jorge Montesinos
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Whats the difference between cross training and crossfit?

when im at my gym. Sometimes people will come up to me and say "man that cross training looks intense". So some people know what cross training is but they never heard of crossfit. So I was thinking what is the difference?
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Old 02-01-2010, 09:42 PM   #2
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Re: Whats the difference between cross training and crossfit?

It's all about the intensity

Crosstraining is really just any non-primary sport that you do to improve fitness for you primary sport (offseason activities, complimentary movements, etc). And it's usually not at high intensity either (unless your primary sport is high intensity).

For example, lots of road bicyclists do mountain biking in the offseason for crosstraining. Or runners will add swimming/bicycling/rowing workouts to keep their LSD training high while reducing risk of injury and overtraining.

In Crossfit, non-primary activities *are* your primary sport - "constantly varied" as well "high intensity."
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Old 02-01-2010, 09:53 PM   #3
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Re: Whats the difference between cross training and crossfit?

Nothing. CrossFit is cross-training. Where do you think the "cross" came from?
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Old 02-02-2010, 04:07 AM   #4
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Re: Whats the difference between cross training and crossfit?

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It's all about the intensity

Crosstraining is really just any non-primary sport that you do to improve fitness for you primary sport (offseason activities, complimentary movements, etc). And it's usually not at high intensity either (unless your primary sport is high intensity).

For example, lots of road bicyclists do mountain biking in the offseason for crosstraining. Or runners will add swimming/bicycling/rowing workouts to keep their LSD training high while reducing risk of injury and overtraining.

In Crossfit, non-primary activities *are* your primary sport - "constantly varied" as well "high intensity."
Good points.

But id argue in this context the guys questioning are really talking about the fact hes mixing up weights/gymnastics/mono....

In which case CF is primarily different in the programming (constantly varied) and intensity (workouts are done against the clock) and data collected.

CF can rightly take the title of "a more advanced well structured form of crosstraining".
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Old 02-02-2010, 06:52 AM   #5
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Re: Whats the difference between cross training and crossfit?

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when im at my gym. Sometimes people will come up to me and say "man that cross training looks intense". So some people know what cross training is but they never heard of crossfit. So I was thinking what is the difference?
The only real difference between circuit training, cross training and CrossFit is one them is trademarked.
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:13 AM   #6
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Re: Whats the difference between cross training and crossfit?

CrossFit has specific movements that make up it's core. These are not random . They are drawn from athletic modalities of weightlifting, gymnastics and tradioinal cardio style activies as well as thier natural derivatives. The modalities and movements were chosen for their carry-over effect to other activities.

CrossFit stands on the pillars that the movements are to be constantly varied, functional, and done at high intensity.

CrossFit tries purposefully to program across the 10 fitness domains of Cardiovascular-resparitory endurance, strength, stamina, flexability, power, speed, coordination, accuracy, agility and balance.

Circuits have nothing to do with it, and purposely "cross-training" in the 80-90's sense, has nothing to do with it.

To say otherwise is to have missed the point.
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Old 02-02-2010, 11:06 PM   #7
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Re: Whats the difference between cross training and crossfit?

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In which case CF is primarily different in the programming (constantly varied) and intensity (workouts are done against the clock) and data collected.
Actually the usual method of determining intensity as far as weight training/exercise goes is LOAD, not Time.

by measuring your workout in time, you aren't so much measuring intensity as you are work output, because the reps are fairly high in general, therefore intensity is low, as intensity and length of duration are usually oppositely related. Highest intensity can only be maintained for very short periods of time, and so on. just like sprinting vs marathons.
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Old 02-02-2010, 11:41 PM   #8
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Re: Whats the difference between cross training and crossfit?

CrossFit uses a different definition of intensity than other training modalities.

From Understanding CrossFit (W/F/S) by Greg Glassman:
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It's pretty clear, to even an untrained eye, that (for the same athlete) a 10-minute Fran is significantly less intense than a 3-minute Fran.

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Re: Whats the difference between cross training and crossfit?

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Actually the usual method of determining intensity as far as weight training/exercise goes is LOAD, not Time.

by measuring your workout in time, you aren't so much measuring intensity as you are work output, because the reps are fairly high in general, therefore intensity is low, as intensity and length of duration are usually oppositely related. Highest intensity can only be maintained for very short periods of time, and so on. just like sprinting vs marathons.
So in other words your agreeing.

CF is different in that it times its workouts. And this timing is what allows them to gauge power output - which theyve come too see is the primary cause of beneficial eustress.
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Old 02-03-2010, 11:41 AM   #10
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Re: Whats the difference between cross training and crossfit?

As Joey mentioned, "Cross Training" is a term from the '80s. It was a half-hearted, rudimentary and failed attempt to accomplish what Crossfit is doing today. The problem with Cross Training was that most folks simply switched from one specialized activity to another activity that usually hit the same metabolic and motor pattern pathways as their specialization. Long distance runners took up long distance swimming. Football players took up rugby. Tennis players took up raquetball.
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