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Old 06-22-2009, 08:54 AM   #1
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More food questions

I am currently doing zone and trying to do a relatively paleo diet but not strict.

1. Soy/tofu?? Is it ok in general?
2. Am I ok to drink non caffeinated green tea?
3. Bacon, I know most people swear by it. Can some one link me to an article about saturated fats and cholesterol in your food and their relation to body cholesterol.


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Old 06-22-2009, 09:52 AM   #2
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Re: More food questions

I can only answer #2, and yes, go ahead and drink your green tea. I've heard we should stay away from soy, but I'm by no means an expert so someone else here will help you out.
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caffeine is not preferred though correct?
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Old 06-22-2009, 10:15 AM   #4
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I don't know if its preferred, but MANY people use it on here with great success. Coffee is the choice for CF's for sure..as long as your not overdoing it, I would go ahead and have your caffeinated green tea.
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Old 06-22-2009, 10:22 AM   #5
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Nothing wrong with moderate levels of caffeine. I'd actually say that most de-caffeination processes are more problematic than the caffeine itself.

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Old 06-22-2009, 01:58 PM   #6
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I am currently doing zone and trying to do a relatively paleo diet but not strict.

1. Soy/tofu?? Is it ok in general?
2. Am I ok to drink non caffeinated green tea?
3. Bacon, I know most people swear by it. Can some one link me to an article about saturated fats and cholesterol in your food and their relation to body cholesterol. Thanks.
1. Yes if you want to fill out your Bikini nicely for summer.
2. Yes
3. Are you kidding, Bacon is scared, step away from the keyboard, no one will get hurt.
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Old 06-22-2009, 02:01 PM   #7
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1. Soy/tofu?? Is it ok in general?
Soybeans are a legume, not a vegetable, and as such aren't Paleo. There's also the issue of them boosting estrogen production, which is the last thing you want if you're trying to gain muscle. I defer to Sir Rippetoe's analysis:

"Soy milk is essentially Coffee-Mate laced with estrogen, and is best left to vegans and other socialist vegetarian types that can't bring themselves to eat the completely natural-for-humans flesh of our friends the Animals but who have no trouble with slaughtering trillions of our other friends the Plants and processing -- in gigantic factories run by multinational corporations with shareholders that eat meat themselves -- very selectively chosen components of their poor little bodies into gooey **** that humans have never had an opportunity to adapt to digesting. Why, eating such material, with its high levels of isoflavones, touted by gynecologists as tantamount to Estrogen Replacement Therapy (ERT), will make you grow boobs, and this will screw up the clean lines of this fine young man's Under Armor. I recommend against it."
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Old 06-22-2009, 04:51 PM   #8
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1. Yes if you want to fill out your Bikini nicely for summer.
2. Yes
3. Are you kidding, Bacon is scared, step away from the keyboard, no one will get hurt.
Bacon is scared?!
The only thing bacon might be scared of is Jay, but considering how lavishly and lovingly he treats his meats, bacon's probably ok with him.

p.s. yes, I know it was a typo...
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Bacon is scared?!
The only thing bacon might be scared of is Jay, but considering how lavishly and lovingly he treats his meats, bacon's probably ok with him.

p.s. yes, I know it was a typo...
Dang spell check...................
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I am currently doing zone and trying to do a relatively paleo diet but not strict.

1. Soy/tofu?? Is it ok in general?
2. Am I ok to drink non caffeinated green tea?
3. Bacon, I know most people swear by it. Can some one link me to an article about saturated fats and cholesterol in your food and their relation to body cholesterol.


Thanks.
1: TVP, soy mince, imitation meats etc should be avoided as they are no better than other highly processed foods. Traditional soy foods such as tofu, miso, tempeh, soy milk etc are however good for you when consumed in moderate amounts as in the traditional Asian diet.

Estimated Asian adult soy protein and isoflavone intakes.

2: Green tea is a good source of antioxidants and is undoubtably good for you however coffee may be better. If you're worried about the caffeine brew your tea leaves for ~1 minute, pour off the water then brew the same leaves a second time. As the caffeine is released quite quickly this method allows you to decaffeinate your own tea thereby avoiding the chemical processes used in commercial products. Alternatively follow the Chinese practice and brew a spoonfull of tea leaves in your cup, drink the first cup as normal then just keep topping up your cup with hot water throughout the day.

Coffee and green tea as a large source of antioxidant polyphenols in the Japanese population.

3: Major types of dietary fat and risk of coronary heart disease: a pooled analysis of 11 cohort studies.

Processed meat and colorectal cancer: a review of epidemiologic and experimental evidence.

*All links are to Pubmed and are WFS*

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