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Old 12-29-2007, 08:23 AM   #1
Aaron Shaffer
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Steroid Usage on Starting Strength

I read Coach Rippetoe's forum frequently and I have a lot of respect for his knowledge base and his direct, no BS approach. A great topic came up last week: Steroid Usage on Starting Strength Coach';s response was excellent IMHO:

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I thank you for the opportunity to answer this question on the record. Novices progress in a linear manner. Novices on this program are frequently accused of using steroids, most usually by people that are unfamiliar with the capacity for human adaptation when training, food, and rest are optimal in people who have previously not adapted to them. This adaptation can result in bodyweight and strength increases in novice trainees that are far in excess of what can be obtained by more advanced athletes using steroids. It is not uncommon for novices to gain 40 lbs. of bodyweight and 300 lbs. of squat strength on this program. Anyone who thinks that steroids can improve upon this is inexperienced with both this method and steroids. I have had quite a bit of experience with both.

Therefore when I tell you the following things, you can believe me:

1. Nothing works better for a novice than a linear progression on heavy squats and 1 gallon of whole milk per day. Nothing.

2. Novices who insist on using steroids are lazy bastards who want a shortcut where there is none. The fact that they want a shortcut means that they are not willing to do the work that is actually necessary EVEN IF YOU DO TAKE STEROIDS.

3. There are no shortcuts. The fact that a shortcut is important to you means that you are a *****. Let me be clear here: if you'd rather take steroids than do your squats heavy and drink enough milk, then you are a ****ing *****. I have no time or patience for ****ing Pussies. Please tell everyone you know that I said this.
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FYI, the first six weeks in 2008 I'm taking a break from the WODs to follow Starting Strength as prescribed. If you're interested in joining me remotely in this mini "black box" please join me in this thread.
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Old 12-29-2007, 08:36 AM   #2
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Re: Steroid Usage on Starting Strength

Clear and direct....those type are in short supply these days with the whole world going "PC." No skirting the issue....gotta love it!
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:49 PM   #3
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Re: Steroid Usage on Starting Strength

I could read Coach Rip's stuff all day long and not get tired. He makes points directly like few can.

Bravo! Good stuff!
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Old 12-29-2007, 04:45 PM   #4
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Re: Steroid Usage on Starting Strength

That is one of the greatest things I've ever read.
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Old 12-29-2007, 06:31 PM   #5
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Re: Steroid Usage on Starting Strength

I think the article was taken from this wfs link

Steroid Usage on the Beginner Routine

I have learned a lot from Coach Rip from his seminars and his books.
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Old 12-29-2007, 07:34 PM   #6
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Re: Steroid Usage on Starting Strength

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That is one of the greatest things I've ever read.

I agree completely!!!!

All the best,
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Old 12-30-2007, 02:18 AM   #7
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Re: Steroid Usage on Starting Strength

So, just to make sure I understand this absolutely clearly: steroids will make me super macho?
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Old 12-30-2007, 11:34 AM   #8
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Re: Steroid Usage on Starting Strength

Back two years when i was desperate to find some decent program and switching from this to that to another new exciting program, i read some comments by Rip then i knew that he wasn't playing PC, then followed his program. I don't know where could i have been now without it.
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Old 01-18-2008, 05:30 PM   #9
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Re: Steroid Usage on Starting Strength

Thanks for the post Aaron. I too am taking a hiatus from the WODs for a couple months to focus on Starting Strength. I am working up to the gallon of milk though
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Old 01-18-2008, 06:54 PM   #10
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Love it!!! I remember when I was in HS, I used to be accused of steroid use because of my strength, and the fact that I had acne. Wish I would have just said this back then.
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