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Old 10-10-2009, 03:43 PM   #11
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Re: Measuring Strength against nothing

You know, a Russian kid at one of the gyms I work at can press (strict, I've seen it) 235lbs. at a body weight of 178, which has kind of made me question a lot of my received wisdom about that lift. He doesn't look particularly big either...it's kind of weird to watch.
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Old 10-10-2009, 08:02 PM   #12
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Re: Measuring Strength against nothing

Find a strong male gymnast and see what they can do bench wise or overhead...
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Old 10-10-2009, 09:44 PM   #13
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Ha ha, he's a former gymnast, so good call!
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Old 10-10-2009, 10:37 PM   #14
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Re: Measuring Strength against nothing

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I train alone and often get frustrated with my percieved lack of strength in certain lifts particularly shoulder press and cleans

I'm 5'8 and weigh in at 151.8lbs.

Squat Clean 154lbs as a 1 Rep Max and easily jerk it.
Shoulder Press 160lbs for 1 Rep Max
Squat 255lbs
Deadlift 352lbs

As I train alone do these figures seem normal? Particularly shoulder press and clean?
Your numbers are solid, but a bit out of proportion if you look at rippetoe's strength standards. But for comparison, my PR's at 135 BW are:

Clean: 170
Press: 125
Squat: 270
Dead: 315

Your press is phenominal, and your deadlift is solid. Squat is definately a bit weak compared to those two, and your clean weaker yet, but I suspect that's form/confidence as you have observed already. Keep it up.
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Old 10-13-2009, 09:19 PM   #15
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Re: Measuring Strength against nothing

Your clean is definitely low, and I agree with the others that it's undoubtedly technique. Your squat is also a bit low compared to your deadlift.

I'm not much bigger than you, at 74 kg, 176 cm. My numbers are similar, but you've got a bigger deadlift by a few pounds, slightly weaker squat, stronger shoulder press. My best clean, on the other hand, is 90 kg (198 lbs.), which is too much for me to put overhead. Yet. Ironically, I'm stronger on handstand pushups than press, since I can do about 10 HSPU in a row at my body weight, but can't get more than 65 kg off my shoulders for the press.

See if you can get some expert coaching for your Oly lifts. I'm self-taught and I'm sure I could do better if I had a coach. Given your superior strength to mine on the DL and press, you should be able to clean over 200 lbs. if you have good technique. Obviously, you're going to have to work up to that, not just do it overnight, but that seems achievable to me.
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Old 11-12-2009, 11:38 AM   #16
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Re: Measuring Strength against nothing

Just did 7x3 reps Squat Clean at 160lbs

Maybe a new 1RM is on the way
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Old 11-12-2009, 06:06 PM   #17
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Re: Measuring Strength against nothing

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Ha ha, he's a former gymnast, so good call!
Well, yeah, there you go. Not exactly surprising to hear that he used to practice gymnastics. Gymnasts are ridiculously strong.
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