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Old 10-29-2011, 08:57 AM   #11
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Re: No love for the bench press

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The bench press isn't functional unless you're trying to push a 300 lb. woman off you.
Go ahead, bench if you want creeky shoulders. You're better off doing pushups, dips, inclines.
Once I stopped benching, 2 years ago, I haven't had any shoulder issues.
Do Louie Simmons, Mark Rippetoe, and Jim Wendler know about this?
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Old 10-29-2011, 09:13 AM   #12
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What does functional mean?
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:16 AM   #13
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Re: No love for the bench press

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What does functional mean?

Here we go...
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Old 10-29-2011, 01:39 PM   #14
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Re: No love for the bench press

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I don't bench because it inhibits my shoulder flexibility for my olympic lifting.
If you train horizontal pulling, ensuring good scapular retraction, benching with proper form shouldn't inhibit your shoulder mobility.

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Crossfit has intentionally marketed itself as a counterculture fitness program, so the "bench and bis"' get no love.
Exactly.

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The bench press isn't functional unless you're trying to push a 300 lb. woman off you.
Go ahead, bench if you want creeky shoulders. You're better off doing pushups, dips, inclines.
Once I stopped benching, 2 years ago, I haven't had any shoulder issues.
Your form was likely problematic, not the exercise. Most people internally rotate their shoulders during the bench, resulting in injury in the long-term.
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Old 10-29-2011, 02:10 PM   #15
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Re: No love for the bench press

Bench is a great workout. I would say most CF gyms don't do it is because they don't have more then a handful of racks they could use for a bench.
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Old 10-29-2011, 02:58 PM   #16
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We do bench every now and then, strangely my bench press numbers now with just doing CrossFit are as good if not better than they ever were. I guess all the pushups, burpees, ring dips, etc we do have been working pretty well.
Yeah, because horizontal pressing is never used by anyone truly elite...
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Old 10-29-2011, 03:40 PM   #17
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Re: No love for the bench press

We've had benches programmed in at our box on some "strength" days.

It's a solid compound upper-body movement. Unlike most other movements in crossfit though, the bench is not suitable for a metcon. What if you can't finish a rep and get the bar pinned on your chest?
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Old 10-29-2011, 05:18 PM   #18
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I love it!

I probably was using wrong form. Still an overrated movement. I'd rather see a guy squat, deadlift and overhead press vs. bench. I may be wrong, but that's my opinion.
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Old 10-29-2011, 06:17 PM   #19
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Re: No love for the bench press

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I love it!

I probably was using wrong form. Still an overrated movement. I'd rather see a guy squat, deadlift and overhead press vs. bench. I may be wrong, but that's my opinion.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion. My opinion is that if you're not strong in all planes, if you don't lift heavy sh*t in horizontal and vertical pull and push, you're lacking in your overall fitness.
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Old 10-29-2011, 06:35 PM   #20
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I love it!

I probably was using wrong form. Still an overrated movement. I'd rather see a guy squat, deadlift and overhead press vs. bench. I may be wrong, but that's my opinion.
You must be a special snowflake. What works for everyone else doesn't work for you. How awesome for you!
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