No wheat, but what about corn?

Frank Menendez · 05-30-2006, 07:02 AM

I am following the advice of many on here and removed the wheat from my diet (slowly but surely).

Should I remove those foods that come from corn as well? (i.e tortillas, corn cereals, etc.)

Thanks

Scott Kustes · 05-30-2006, 08:31 AM

If your goal is to remove wheat, then no. If your goal is to remove grains, as most here advise, then corn must go to.

I noticed a funny thing a week or so ago. I used to go for a slice of bread with PB, almond butter, or some other nut butter once or twice a week. Now I never even think about having grains....after so much time without them, my brains never says "bread/corn/oatmeal/any other grain is an option" when hungry.

Frank Menendez · 05-30-2006, 09:38 AM

So you just eat fruits and veggies eh? Not even potatoes?

David Stegman · 05-30-2006, 10:57 AM

I try to aviod corn as well. Although I'll partake in some chips and hot sauce on occasion! But I rarely do that.

Scott Kustes · 05-30-2006, 12:57 PM

If I do eat corn, it's tortilla chips with guac or salsa (my vice). And I have a beer or two now and then, so there's some grain in that. But for normal daily eating, it's "meat and vegetables, nuts and seeds, some fruit, little starch, and no sugar." I've started adding sweet potatoes every day or two, which are pretty much my only starchy food, but I avoid white potatoes.

Garrett Smith · 05-31-2006, 08:41 AM

The only grain I eat is corn when I go to my favorite Mexican food place (Rosa's) here in town.

No grains in the daily/regular diet. Only as a cheat. Even then, I'll make the cheat grain corn or even rice, definitely not the gluten grains (wheat, oat, barley, rye).

Anthony Bainbridge · 05-31-2006, 08:48 AM

For those who avoid all grains, how many carbs and total calories do you eat per day?

Paul Alvarez · 05-31-2006, 09:27 AM

Besides grains being nightshades, whats the benifit of cutting grains out entirely from ones diet?

Pierre Auge · 05-31-2006, 10:09 AM

Anthony,
I did the math today and realised that I actually have a pretty fair amount of calories coming in. Approximately 2600 calories a day on average. And about 1600 of those calories are from fat sources such as Avocados, and olive oil. To be honest those cals are mostly from avocados.

I avoid all grains like the plague. My carb sources are Apples, Oranges, Strawberries, Spinach (my fav), Cabbage, tomatoes, rarely ever touch starches, though I'm very fond of sweet potatoes. Oh and broccoli, I love steamed broccoli.

I'm fairly lean, I guess around 8% BF and 150lbs as of this morning. Been eating like this off and on whenever I wasn't tasked across the country or in the field, since December-January and fairly strictly since the end of March.

Garrett Smith · 05-31-2006, 10:23 AM

Paul,
Grains are not nightshades.

Grains--(not an exhaustive list) wheat, corn, rice, oats, etc.

Nightshades--tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, eggplant.

I'm going to make a rash generalization here about grains. I believe that grains cause inflammation in the body, as well as the accompanying water/fat gain. Anyone I ask who is trying to lose weight unsuccessfully always has grains in their diet.

Nightshades are associated with systemic and local inflammation. Anyone I talk to with arthritis is always eating one or several types of them (hard to escape without conscious avoidance).

Just wanted to give a quick clarification, search the board for much more in-depth answers...

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05-30-2006, 07:02 AM	#1
Frank Menendez Member Profile: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami Florida Posts: 810	I am following the advice of many on here and removed the wheat from my diet (slowly but surely). Should I remove those foods that come from corn as well? (i.e tortillas, corn cereals, etc.) Thanks

05-30-2006, 08:31 AM	#2
Scott Kustes Member Profile: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 1,258	If your goal is to remove wheat, then no. If your goal is to remove grains, as most here advise, then corn must go to. I noticed a funny thing a week or so ago. I used to go for a slice of bread with PB, almond butter, or some other nut butter once or twice a week. Now I never even think about having grains....after so much time without them, my brains never says "bread/corn/oatmeal/any other grain is an option" when hungry.

05-30-2006, 09:38 AM	#3
Frank Menendez Member Profile: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami Florida Posts: 810	So you just eat fruits and veggies eh? Not even potatoes?

05-30-2006, 10:57 AM	#4
David Stegman Member Profile: Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lubbock TX Posts: 262	I try to aviod corn as well. Although I'll partake in some chips and hot sauce on occasion! But I rarely do that.

05-30-2006, 12:57 PM	#5
Scott Kustes Member Profile: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 1,258	If I do eat corn, it's tortilla chips with guac or salsa (my vice). And I have a beer or two now and then, so there's some grain in that. But for normal daily eating, it's "meat and vegetables, nuts and seeds, some fruit, little starch, and no sugar." I've started adding sweet potatoes every day or two, which are pretty much my only starchy food, but I avoid white potatoes.

05-31-2006, 08:41 AM	#6
Garrett Smith Member Profile: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,264	The only grain I eat is corn when I go to my favorite Mexican food place (Rosa's) here in town. No grains in the daily/regular diet. Only as a cheat. Even then, I'll make the cheat grain corn or even rice, definitely not the gluten grains (wheat, oat, barley, rye).

05-31-2006, 08:48 AM	#7
Anthony Bainbridge Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fredericton New Brunswick Posts: 3,886	For those who avoid all grains, how many carbs and total calories do you eat per day?

05-31-2006, 09:27 AM	#8
Paul Alvarez Member Profile: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Long Beach for school, Maui and San Jose are home CA Posts: 118	Besides grains being nightshades, whats the benifit of cutting grains out entirely from ones diet?

05-31-2006, 10:09 AM	#9
Pierre Auge Member Profile: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ottawa Ontario Posts: 735	Anthony, I did the math today and realised that I actually have a pretty fair amount of calories coming in. Approximately 2600 calories a day on average. And about 1600 of those calories are from fat sources such as Avocados, and olive oil. To be honest those cals are mostly from avocados. I avoid all grains like the plague. My carb sources are Apples, Oranges, Strawberries, Spinach (my fav), Cabbage, tomatoes, rarely ever touch starches, though I'm very fond of sweet potatoes. Oh and broccoli, I love steamed broccoli. I'm fairly lean, I guess around 8% BF and 150lbs as of this morning. Been eating like this off and on whenever I wasn't tasked across the country or in the field, since December-January and fairly strictly since the end of March.

05-31-2006, 10:23 AM	#10
Garrett Smith Member Profile: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,264	Paul, Grains are not nightshades. Grains--(not an exhaustive list) wheat, corn, rice, oats, etc. Nightshades--tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, eggplant. I'm going to make a rash generalization here about grains. I believe that grains cause inflammation in the body, as well as the accompanying water/fat gain. Anyone I ask who is trying to lose weight unsuccessfully always has grains in their diet. Nightshades are associated with systemic and local inflammation. Anyone I talk to with arthritis is always eating one or several types of them (hard to escape without conscious avoidance). Just wanted to give a quick clarification, search the board for much more in-depth answers...