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Old 11-12-2011, 07:46 PM   #1
Yotam Wei
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Zone : mayonnaise help

Hi
I just started the zone diet

I am using mayonnaise for a meal. CFJ21 said 1/3 of a teaspoon = 1 block. I went to the supermarket and found one brand of mayonnaise that had 20% fat and another that had 60 percent fat. Neither of them were the "fat free" variety. One had "oil" listed as first ingredient the other was listed as second ingredient.

So which of these mayonnaise = 1/3 teaspoon for a block?

Will this inaccuracy be present for all food?
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Old 11-13-2011, 01:00 PM   #2
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Re: Zone : mayonnaise help

If oil wasn't first what was?

Real mayo is primarily oil.
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Old 11-13-2011, 01:37 PM   #3
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Re: Zone : mayonnaise help

My first suggestion would be to scrap the zone all together but since that wasn't your question..

It doesn't matter. If you know how much fat equals a block then it doesnt matter if oil is the first ingredient or the 35th. Fat is fat no matter where it sits on the lable.
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Old 11-13-2011, 02:38 PM   #4
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Re: Zone : mayonnaise help

The 60% fat vs. 20% fat that is on packaging or order of ingredients doesn't matter. Look for where the calories (energy) and fat/protein/carbs are listed. It will say something like:

serving size 1 Tbsp (15 mL)
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Total fat 11g

A tablespoon is three teaspoons, divide by three, and
--> 3.6g fat per teaspoon = 1.2 blocks fat per teaspoon

You would then do this with each food item. I would recommend not doing that because you will go insane, but that's how zone conversions work.
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Old 11-14-2011, 05:57 AM   #5
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--> 3.6g fat per teaspoon = 1.2 blocks fat per teaspoon
Awesome.

where does this conversion come from? Whats the source?
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Old 11-14-2011, 10:35 AM   #6
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Awesome.

where does this conversion come from? Whats the source?
The conversion for blocks is:
1 block fat = 3g fat*
1 block carbs = 9g carbs
1 block protein = 7g protein

*There is one confusing part where 1 block of fat may equal 1.5g of fat. The idea being that protein sources like meat typically come paired with fat. So when you have a 7g (1 block) protein source from meat, it comes with it a "hidden" 1.5g of fat, or a half block. Some people will ignore fat content in meat and adjust their fat blocks to 1.5g instead of 3g to account for that.
Sources (WFS):
http://www.the-zone-diet-plan.com/zone-diet-faq.html
http://www.enterthezonediet.com/lear...ck-method.html
If you're using this system, the post I made above would be corrected to be:
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--> 3.6g fat per teaspoon = 2.4 blocks fat per teaspoon
In my opinion the whole process is a waste of time and a ploy to get you to buy their packaged foods. I would rather determine how many calories you want each day, and then break that into the percentages you want. Example:

2000 calories broken into 40/30/30
(2000*.4)/(4 calories per gram carb) = 200 g carbs
(2000*.3)/(4 calories per gram protein) = 150g protein
(2000*.3)/(9 calories per gram fat) = 66g fat

Then you learn how to eyeball it so you eventually don't measure anything.
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Old 11-15-2011, 04:30 AM   #7
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In my opinion the whole process is a waste of time
^ Emphatically this.
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:20 AM   #8
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Yea all that figuring makes my head hurt.
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Old 11-17-2011, 12:41 PM   #9
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Re: Zone : mayonnaise help

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My first suggestion would be to scrap the zone all together but since that wasn't your question..
Werd.

Considering everything from digestive capacity to gut flora can change the # calories you extract from food, i'd extrapolate that the Zone is NOT something to be obsessive about. If you like the general ratios, fine - but dwelling on the mayo situation may be overkill

That said...conventional mayo is garbage (check ingredients list). If you see "partially hydrogenated" anywhere, you're likely doing yourself more physiological harm than the Zone could ever do you good. If you wanted something HEALTHY, I'd make your own or order the mayo from WildernessFamilyNaturals.com.
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