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Old 03-06-2009, 10:58 AM   #1
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Protein too low? Lyle McDonald says 1.1-1.5 g/lb

I've been Zoning for a while and use a 0.8 g/lb multiplier and make up extra calories by adding fat. This seems to be the norm for most CF'ers who Zone.

Any thoughts on why Lyle McDonald and others tend to suggest at least 1 g/lb for protein?

I'm happy with the Zone but wonder why we don't get all our calories at 40% carbs 30% protein 30% fat and just increase them all proportionally when our performance drops? Instead we do like 36% carbs 28% protein 36% fat (for example, if we were on a 3x fat plan).
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Old 03-06-2009, 11:07 AM   #2
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Re: Protein too low? Lyle McDonald says 1.1-1.5 g/lb

Anyone who is athletic and/or needs to maintain or gain muscle mass needs higher protein intake.

It really does make you stronger and improve performance..


You could've just posted in this thread though.. wfs

http://www.board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=43419
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Old 03-06-2009, 11:09 AM   #3
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Re: Protein too low? Lyle McDonald says 1.1-1.5 g/lb

Well generally you only NEED a certain amount of protein. Throwing extra protein at the body in a restricted calorie situation is generally a good idea, as it might encourage preservation of lean muscle mass.

Personally I am not a fan of the zone and this is a big reason why. I don't WANT to eat 70g protein per day, I like meat. So personally I prefer more along the lines of 1g/lb of bodyweight or a little more, but I don't think this is NECESSARY. I feel good eating this much protein.

I think anything in the region of 0.8 - 1.5g per pound is acceptable for an athlete, any extra eventually is converted to glucose anyway so if you eat a little too much it's no big deal really unless you have a medical condition.
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Old 03-06-2009, 11:11 AM   #4
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Re: Protein too low? Lyle McDonald says 1.1-1.5 g/lb

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Anyone who is athletic and/or needs to maintain or gain muscle mass needs higher protein intake.

It really does make you stronger and improve performance..


You could've just posted in this thread though.. wfs

http://www.board.CrossFit.com/showthread.php?t=43419
higher than 1g/lb?

I eat about that much, but if I thought eating even more would be beneficial i could increase it.
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Old 03-06-2009, 11:15 AM   #5
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Re: Protein too low? Lyle McDonald says 1.1-1.5 g/lb

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I've been Zoning for a while and use a 0.8 g/lb multiplier and make up extra calories by adding fat. This seems to be the norm for most CF'ers who Zone.

Any thoughts on why Lyle McDonald and others tend to suggest at least 1 g/lb for protein?

I'm happy with the Zone but wonder why we don't get all our calories at 40% carbs 30% protein 30% fat and just increase them all proportionally when our performance drops? Instead we do like 36% carbs 28% protein 36% fat (for example, if we were on a 3x fat plan).
I personally 1g/lb is unnecessary. What I *do* think is dead-on is 1 gram of protein per pound of lean body mass. I used to do 1g/lb, and when I switched to 1g/lbm-lb I saw no decrease in performace, just a cheaper grocery bill & decreased bodyfat...
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Old 03-06-2009, 11:34 AM   #6
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Re: Protein too low? Lyle McDonald says 1.1-1.5 g/lb

I'm a bigger fan of things like McDonald and Paleo and Body-Rx. The math is alot simpler, and it provides templates, not meal plans or blocks
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Old 03-06-2009, 12:37 PM   #7
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Re: Protein too low? Lyle McDonald says 1.1-1.5 g/lb

agree with more protein...I'm currently using the 1g/lbm which is around 170g of protein for me...more than enough to satiate me both physically and psychologically....and way better then the dismal amount of protein I was allowed on the zone....I switched that that, and started PR'ing my lifts like there was no tomorrow...
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Old 03-06-2009, 12:49 PM   #8
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Re: Protein too low? Lyle McDonald says 1.1-1.5 g/lb

I'm currently being trained by Paul O'Neill, who was a world-level still rings competitor. I asked him about protein intake, and he told me that when he was competing, he was intaking about 2g/lb.
He then qualified that to say that he was training 8 hours a day. Which a lot of us would find...excessive.
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Old 03-06-2009, 04:05 PM   #9
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Re: Protein too low? Lyle McDonald says 1.1-1.5 g/lb

Zone isn't low in protein - you just have to realize that you're getting protein outside of your protein blocks.
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Re: Protein too low? Lyle McDonald says 1.1-1.5 g/lb

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I'm currently being trained by Paul O'Neill, who was a world-level still rings competitor. I asked him about protein intake, and he told me that when he was competing, he was intaking about 2g/lb.
He then qualified that to say that he was training 8 hours a day. Which a lot of us would find...excessive.
Competitive BBers while cutting take as much as 2-2.5 g/lbs...

so nowhere near abnormal.
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