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Old 06-30-2011, 01:47 AM   #11
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Re: Torn Rotator Cuff (PASTA) possible Labrum (SLAP) from Butterfly Pullups

Thanks Colin,

Yeah there is always a risk, I mean quite frankly you can hurt your shoulder doing regular kipping OR strict pull-ups as well, depending on many factors. Sounds like you were doing some of the right things, if you yank that joint in the bottom of the swing though you are putting some forces on the girdle...

Don't let anyone fool you though, anyone who has trained for considerable time has had injuries...it is a learning process and I don't know anyone who trained hard injury free their whole life...of course some injuries are worse and avoidable. But sometimes figuring that out happens AFTER you suffer injury.

Wishing you a smooth recovery man.
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Old 06-30-2011, 04:39 AM   #12
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Re: Torn Rotator Cuff (PASTA) possible Labrum (SLAP) from Butterfly Pullups

Good comments there Aushion, i totally agree - suffering injuries is a huge learning experience. My injury has made me realise that i cant do now, at 36yrs, the same volume that i could when i was 25yrs.. even though my mind says otherwise.

Once i recover my training regime will be much different to before with much more focus on lighter weight higher rep work and much more concentration on form.

This is sometimes the problem with Crossfit.. lots of focus on high volume / max reps in the shortest time frame possible.. the end result is your form often suffers.. this is something i'll be changing once i get back to 100%.
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Old 07-01-2011, 12:14 AM   #13
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Re: Torn Rotator Cuff (PASTA) possible Labrum (SLAP) from Butterfly Pullups

You are right Aushion, and this is not my first CrossFit injury. 3 years ago I got golfer's elbow and had to take 3 months off. That was a 6-12 month recovery too and even now 3 years on, I'm only 99% better (max front squats and shoulder presses give twinges). It seems a common problem though, would you believe I've actually had 18,000 people visit my Golfer's Elbow Treatments page (WFS) in the last 12 months alone?!?
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:03 AM   #14
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Re: Torn Rotator Cuff (PASTA) possible Labrum (SLAP) from Butterfly Pullups

I've got the appointment for my MRI + dye for next week. I'm not looking forward to the injection deep into my shoulder, nor being fully immersed in an MRI machine for half an hour. "I must not fear, Fear is the mind killer..."
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:39 AM   #15
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Re: Torn Rotator Cuff (PASTA) possible Labrum (SLAP) from Butterfly Pullups

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I've got the appointment for my MRI + dye for next week. I'm not looking forward to the injection deep into my shoulder, nor being fully immersed in an MRI machine for half an hour. "I must not fear, Fear is the mind killer..."
Ahh yes the old contrast injection... i wont lie to you mate, its not very pleasant. I wouldnt say its painful.. just uncomfortable... you can feel the needle inside your joint.. strange sensation. It doesnt last long though, about a minute and its all done.

Just grit your teeth mate and squeeze the crap out of the bed rails!!

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Re: Torn Rotator Cuff (PASTA) possible Labrum (SLAP) from Butterfly Pullups

Ah the fun of the RC tear and the SLAP lesion....

Butterflies just aren't good at all unless you have the potential for the games. Even then I would not suggest learning..
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Old 07-20-2011, 06:12 PM   #17
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Ah the fun of the RC tear and the SLAP lesion....

Butterflies just aren't good at all unless you have the potential for the games. Even then I would not suggest learning..
Totally agree Steven... i find it hard to believe theyre still included in the programming. It just doesnt make sense to me how people think a movement like this is safe.

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Old 08-04-2011, 03:07 AM   #18
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Re: Torn Rotator Cuff (PASTA) possible Labrum (SLAP) from Butterfly Pullups

Gravel, you were spot on about the contrast injection, it was very unpleasant but not very painful.

I had my arthrogram and MRI on Tuesday. I don't have any results yet but have stuck up a post about it on my blog here with pictures of the procedure: My rotator cuff MRI shoulder scan and arthrogram (MRA) (wfs)
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Gravel, you were spot on about the contrast injection, it was very unpleasant but not very painful.

I had my arthrogram and MRI on Tuesday. I don't have any results yet but have stuck up a post about it on my blog here with pictures of the procedure: My rotator cuff MRI shoulder scan and arthrogram (MRA) (wfs)
All the best with the results mate.. keep us posted.

That contrast injection is something you only want to go through once hey!

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Re: Torn Rotator Cuff (PASTA) possible Labrum (SLAP) from Butterfly Pullups

Still not got the results through from my scan 3 weeks ago. The downside to the free National Health Service in this country, is it's sloooow!

I've put together a post on my blog that details the rotator cuff friendly exercises and workouts I've been doing, which appear to be doing a fine job of reducing a lot of my symptoms. Would love to get your feedback on what you think:

http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/201...ises-workouts/ (wfs).
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