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Old 05-02-2009, 07:41 AM   #1
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Nutrition for Strength Bias or Crossfit Football

If one begins doing mostly CF strength bias or the sort of thing the crossfit football folks do more often with heavier WODs, would it be wise to up the protein intake a block or two?

I'm guessing no, but have heard that straight zone isn't necessarily ideal for muscle building because the protein intake is lacking.

My apologies if this has been answered a million times. I checked it out but didn't see what looked like a thread for this particular question.

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Old 05-02-2009, 08:45 AM   #2
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Re: Nutrition for Strength Bias or CrossFit Football

Many people find that the Zone as written doesn't provide adequate calories for Crossfit. Add lots of extra lifting and you make the problem worse. Crossfit Football itself recommends a Paleo diet plus dairy, with one gram of protein per pound of bodyweight. They also do not recommend restricting calories.

(Crossfit Football's WFS nutrition page is at http://www.crossfitfootball.com/page...page=nutrition)

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Old 05-02-2009, 09:02 AM   #3
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Re: Nutrition for Strength Bias or CrossFit Football

Katherine, thanks a lot.
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:27 PM   #4
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Re: Nutrition for Strength Bias or CrossFit Football

I ditched the zone after I started olympic lifting full time. Since football is similar in that it's primarily strength based, I'd recommend not zoning. You won't find ANY heavy duty lifter who follow the zone. I did, and I was ok, but I was lacking in calories and was able to perform better just by going paleo and eating way more protein.

The 1 g/lb body weight is what I've heard, too, as a lifter, and would recommend it for anyone who is doing a primarily strength-based sport.
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Old 05-02-2009, 05:48 PM   #5
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Re: Nutrition for Strength Bias or CrossFit Football

I would just add that you did not advise what your goals are, just what programs you were thinking of. I assume it's strength, but do you also want size? If you want size, zone is probably not good for you, but see rob wolf's 42 ways to skin the zone article if you want to zone. Very helpful.

I have been doing cfsb since it came out.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:40 AM   #6
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Re: Nutrition for Strength Bias or CrossFit Football

Brian. I'm planning to spend a lot more time doing crossfit strength bias or at least try it out for a few weeks. Id like to put on a few pounds, but its mostly because I seem to plateau easily with the heavy lifts. id like to break through some of my PR's ive had trouble improving.

I was thinking of doing zone, but adding an extra block of protein and having that same amount for every meal while the fat and carbs will stay the same - three 4 block meals, two 2 block meals, but with all of them having 5 blocks of protein. anyone have any thoughts about that? is that retadid or what?
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Re: Nutrition for Strength Bias or CrossFit Football

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Brian. I'm planning to spend a lot more time doing CrossFit strength bias or at least try it out for a few weeks. Id like to put on a few pounds, but its mostly because I seem to plateau easily with the heavy lifts. id like to break through some of my PR's ive had trouble improving.

I was thinking of doing zone, but adding an extra block of protein and having that same amount for every meal while the fat and carbs will stay the same - three 4 block meals, two 2 block meals, but with all of them having 5 blocks of protein. anyone have any thoughts about that? is that retadid or what?
Dude. Just eat protein. For your size you probably need a lot. Eat a lot of it. Eat lots of veggies. Eat lots of fat. Don't over think it.
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:55 AM   #8
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boom. understood.
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Old 05-04-2009, 06:53 AM   #9
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Re: Nutrition for Strength Bias or CrossFit Football

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Dude. Just eat protein. For your size you probably need a lot. Eat a lot of it. Eat lots of veggies. Eat lots of fat. Don't over think it.


I was doing modified zone (i.e. 18block protein, 16CHO, ~1.5-2x fat) with decent results, but Melissa Byers made me realize that there wasn't that much bang for my buck. I now stop worrying, eat protein like its my job, down a good amount of veggies, some fruit, and largely base my fat intake (daily) on how ****ty I feel at the gym. If I do well, all's well. If I do not so well, up the fat. That's it that's all. Don't over complicate it, life's too short.

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Old 05-04-2009, 06:58 AM   #10
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Re: Nutrition for Strength Bias or CrossFit Football



The more I black box my intake, the more I realize I am a chronic undereater.

and that is a BAD quality in the CFSB world!
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