Swim test in the games

Daniel Frankel · 07-26-2011, 08:12 PM

http://games.crossfit.com/features/swim-test-announced (WFS)

Thoughts? This is a for sure that swimming will be in the games, IMO. But what happens if some athletes can't swim?

Mark E. Wallace · 07-26-2011, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Frankel

http://games.crossfit.com/features/swim-test-announced (WFS)

Thoughts? This is a for sure that swimming will be in the games, IMO. But what happens if some athletes can't swim?

I suppose they can't win. Same as if some athletes can't do some other movement.

- Mark

Andrew Bell · 07-26-2011, 08:37 PM

I think it's just a head fake. It does NOT mean that there is a wod with it, simply a check to see IF they can does not mean anything.

Mark E. Wallace · 07-26-2011, 08:51 PM

It's an interesting move, the test.

Let's just say that they identify through the test that (for example) all of the athletes can swim but that Spealler (again, just an example) swims like an Olympian and Khalipa can swim but really really really sucks.

IF you are using the test to determine whether or not to hold a certain swim WOD (i.e. whether it's safe enough to hold it), do you factor into the decision the fact that Spealler is going to annihilate everyone and that Khalipa is going to come dragging in dead f___ing last? Or, do you somehow try to overlook that and only consider whether or not everyone can safely finish the WOD? Even if you do try to overlook Spealler's obvious dominance, you know you're going to get accused of favoriting him and singling Khalipa out to lose.

I think the wise move here for all of the athletes is to only go so far as to demonstrate that it's safe to put you in the pool but not to reveal just how good or bad you are.

- Mark

Gavan Hennigan · 07-27-2011, 01:23 AM

Well as an Ex-Competitive swimmer,this is great news for me as like others with swimming backgrounds we have a proper advantage.
Ever since starting crossfit i have serectly wished i had done Olympic lifting as a kid to have a better foundation.
Overall i think it is a bold move by HQ as people will agree swimming is very skilled based and teaching an adult who has very little swimming experience upto a standard to compete would be a hard task.
But as a sport it needs to evolve and incorporate more diverse modalities,so lets start thinking outside the box.Make room for a pool at your local box

Bennett Jones · 07-27-2011, 01:47 AM

Even if there is a swim test it doesn't necessarily mean that the games will
involve actual swimming as such, being such a specialist movement the organizers will know that not everyone can swim. What I can picture will happen is that the may have to carry weights in the pool (a bit like strong man contests) such as carrying a weight from one side to the other etc etc.. sure the athletes can swim there weights, but athletes who don't know how to swim can still stay competitive through wading or aqua jogging etc. But of course thats just IMO.

Ben Norris · 07-27-2011, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark E. Wallace

It's an interesting move, the test.

Let's just say that they identify through the test that (for example) all of the athletes can swim but that Spealler (again, just an example) swims like an Olympian and Khalipa can swim but really really really sucks.

IF you are using the test to determine whether or not to hold a certain swim WOD (i.e. whether it's safe enough to hold it), do you factor into the decision the fact that Spealler is going to annihilate everyone and that Khalipa is going to come dragging in dead f___ing last? Or, do you somehow try to overlook that and only consider whether or not everyone can safely finish the WOD? Even if you do try to overlook Spealler's obvious dominance, you know you're going to get accused of favoriting him and singling Khalipa out to lose.

I think the wise move here for all of the athletes is to only go so far as to demonstrate that it's safe to put you in the pool but not to reveal just how good or bad you are.

- Mark

Spealler beating Khalipa? So business as usual

Mark Martinez · 07-27-2011, 02:54 AM

I want to see team weighted-synchronized swimming.

Matthew Swartz · 07-27-2011, 06:05 AM

This is Par's wet dream! (pun intended)

Dave Traeger · 07-27-2011, 06:53 AM

But what if you live in a country girt by sea and therefore can't swim?

07-26-2011, 08:12 PM	#1
Daniel Frankel Member Profile: Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Thornhill ON Canada Posts: 1,508	Swim test in the games http://games.crossfit.com/features/swim-test-announced (WFS) Thoughts? This is a for sure that swimming will be in the games, IMO. But what happens if some athletes can't swim?
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07-26-2011, 08:37 PM	#3
Andrew Bell Member Profile: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Houston TX Posts: 4,021	Re: Swim test in the games I think it's just a head fake. It does NOT mean that there is a wod with it, simply a check to see IF they can does not mean anything.
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07-26-2011, 08:51 PM	#4
Mark E. Wallace Member Profile: Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cedar Park TX Posts: 3,869	Re: Swim test in the games It's an interesting move, the test. Let's just say that they identify through the test that (for example) all of the athletes can swim but that Spealler (again, just an example) swims like an Olympian and Khalipa can swim but really really really sucks. IF you are using the test to determine whether or not to hold a certain swim WOD (i.e. whether it's safe enough to hold it), do you factor into the decision the fact that Spealler is going to annihilate everyone and that Khalipa is going to come dragging in dead f___ing last? Or, do you somehow try to overlook that and only consider whether or not everyone can safely finish the WOD? Even if you do try to overlook Spealler's obvious dominance, you know you're going to get accused of favoriting him and singling Khalipa out to lose. I think the wise move here for all of the athletes is to only go so far as to demonstrate that it's safe to put you in the pool but not to reveal just how good or bad you are. - Mark
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07-27-2011, 01:23 AM	#5
Gavan Hennigan Member Profile: Join Date: May 2011 Location: Seminyak Indonesia Posts: 9	Re: Swim test in the games Well as an Ex-Competitive swimmer,this is great news for me as like others with swimming backgrounds we have a proper advantage. Ever since starting crossfit i have serectly wished i had done Olympic lifting as a kid to have a better foundation. Overall i think it is a bold move by HQ as people will agree swimming is very skilled based and teaching an adult who has very little swimming experience upto a standard to compete would be a hard task. But as a sport it needs to evolve and incorporate more diverse modalities,so lets start thinking outside the box.Make room for a pool at your local box

07-27-2011, 01:47 AM	#6
Bennett Jones Member Profile: Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Dunedin New Zealand Posts: 4	Re: Swim test in the games Even if there is a swim test it doesn't necessarily mean that the games will involve actual swimming as such, being such a specialist movement the organizers will know that not everyone can swim. What I can picture will happen is that the may have to carry weights in the pool (a bit like strong man contests) such as carrying a weight from one side to the other etc etc.. sure the athletes can swim there weights, but athletes who don't know how to swim can still stay competitive through wading or aqua jogging etc. But of course thats just IMO.
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07-27-2011, 02:54 AM	#8
Mark Martinez Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spangdahlem Germany Posts: 476	Re: Swim test in the games I want to see team weighted-synchronized swimming.

07-27-2011, 06:05 AM	#9
Matthew Swartz Member Profile: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Centreville VA Posts: 1,204	Re: Swim test in the games This is Par's wet dream! (pun intended)
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07-27-2011, 06:53 AM	#10
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