CF and HIIT : a match made in heaven?

Mark Garcia · 03-17-2006, 04:17 AM

What do you guys think of combingin CF WODs with HIIT?

Anthony Bainbridge · 03-17-2006, 05:41 AM

A lot of the WODs operate on the same principles as HIIT. Can you be more specific with the type of HIIT you are doing?

Kalen Meine · 03-19-2006, 01:43 AM

Umm, Crossfit, most of the time, is HIIT- metabolicly demanding work done at unsustainable levels of performance for repeated bursts. Sometimes, as in all the tabata stuff, the rest time is set, sometimes, like Barbara, the work volume and rest are determined, and for the rest, the interval is set by how long you can gut it out, and the duration of the next exercise in the circuit. That would make it HIIT. It wouldn't be hard to make an argument that those kinds of freeform intervals and volumes are more beneficial than the normal variety, although the psychological confines of more structure might encourage some people to push harder. Whatever. Thus, we do both. But if you're asking if you can cycle in a sprinting workout, which is what I think you're actually asking, sure, why not. Sprinting is good.

Tim Morrison · 03-19-2006, 11:11 AM

I think he's talking of traditionally defined HIIT strength training..usually meaning.whole body, compound exercises, very low set #'s, max weight @6-10,weight @6-10 reps, going to complete failure.

Jesse Woody · 03-19-2006, 11:38 AM

That would be HIT (High Intensity Training) as opposed to HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training)

Lincoln Brigham · 03-19-2006, 11:45 AM

Crossfit uses H.I.I.T. much more than H.I.T.
In fact, most Crossfit workouts are the anti-H.I.T.

H.I.T. is very time-efficient, but it has never made great inroads into elite athletics, so Crossfit tends to discard it. H.I.I.T. on the other hand is found in the workout programs of many elite athletes, especially any sport that requires a lot of sprinting.

(Message edited by lincoln on March 19, 2006)

Robert Wolf · 03-19-2006, 11:51 AM

It's all good! One might benefit from 3 days per week of OL, PL or gymnastics work with 1-3 days of HIIT (running, rowing, swimming...boxing perhaps?).

It is true that segmented training produces segmented results but it is not a bad thing to get in and really work thos individual elements like max strength or sprinting.

Tim Morrison · 03-19-2006, 11:59 AM

gottcha Jesse..misread it. thanks!

Tim Morrison · 03-19-2006, 12:13 PM

mark
i've been replacing one of the 3 Wod's with exactly that for various reasons..... usually :10 second to :30 second of work with 1-3 times that duration in active rest.... for the last 8 months.
love it!
I use track and incline running, row, swim,
and.... many varieties of the compound weight movements.
I experimented from oct to jan doing rounds of 9 thrusters@95pds+9pullups,9thrusters@95pds+9pullups under my Fran goal time of 6min.
Did this for 15 min...
Started with 1min rest and wittled it down gradually.
My time had been 9 min..
ended up going slightly under 7.
....
Max reps for clean&J's @135 for15sec with :45 rest for 15min is a trip.
It IS max power output with a heavy sustained heart/respiratory rate thruout.

Tim Morrison · 03-19-2006, 12:15 PM

gottcha Jesse..misread it. thanks!

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03-17-2006, 04:17 AM	#1
Mark Garcia Member Profile: Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: paranaque metro manila Posts: 155	What do you guys think of combingin CF WODs with HIIT?

03-17-2006, 05:41 AM	#2
Anthony Bainbridge Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fredericton New Brunswick Posts: 3,886	A lot of the WODs operate on the same principles as HIIT. Can you be more specific with the type of HIIT you are doing?

03-19-2006, 01:43 AM	#3
Kalen Meine Member Profile: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Denver CO Posts: 329	Umm, Crossfit, most of the time, is HIIT- metabolicly demanding work done at unsustainable levels of performance for repeated bursts. Sometimes, as in all the tabata stuff, the rest time is set, sometimes, like Barbara, the work volume and rest are determined, and for the rest, the interval is set by how long you can gut it out, and the duration of the next exercise in the circuit. That would make it HIIT. It wouldn't be hard to make an argument that those kinds of freeform intervals and volumes are more beneficial than the normal variety, although the psychological confines of more structure might encourage some people to push harder. Whatever. Thus, we do both. But if you're asking if you can cycle in a sprinting workout, which is what I think you're actually asking, sure, why not. Sprinting is good.

03-19-2006, 11:11 AM	#4
Tim Morrison Member Profile: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chicago il Posts: 149	I think he's talking of traditionally defined HIIT strength training..usually meaning.whole body, compound exercises, very low set #'s, max weight @6-10,weight @6-10 reps, going to complete failure.

03-19-2006, 11:38 AM	#5
Jesse Woody Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange Virginia Posts: 915	That would be HIT (High Intensity Training) as opposed to HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training)

03-19-2006, 11:45 AM	#6
Lincoln Brigham Member Profile: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Kirkland WA Posts: 3,987	Crossfit uses H.I.I.T. much more than H.I.T. In fact, most Crossfit workouts are the anti-H.I.T. H.I.T. is very time-efficient, but it has never made great inroads into elite athletics, so Crossfit tends to discard it. H.I.I.T. on the other hand is found in the workout programs of many elite athletes, especially any sport that requires a lot of sprinting. (Message edited by lincoln on March 19, 2006)

03-19-2006, 11:51 AM	#7
Robert Wolf Member Profile: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chico CA Posts: 2,669	It's all good! One might benefit from 3 days per week of OL, PL or gymnastics work with 1-3 days of HIIT (running, rowing, swimming...boxing perhaps?). It is true that segmented training produces segmented results but it is not a bad thing to get in and really work thos individual elements like max strength or sprinting.

03-19-2006, 11:59 AM	#8
Tim Morrison Member Profile: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chicago il Posts: 149	gottcha Jesse..misread it. thanks!

03-19-2006, 12:13 PM	#9
Tim Morrison Member Profile: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chicago il Posts: 149	mark i've been replacing one of the 3 Wod's with exactly that for various reasons..... usually :10 second to :30 second of work with 1-3 times that duration in active rest.... for the last 8 months. love it! I use track and incline running, row, swim, and.... many varieties of the compound weight movements. I experimented from oct to jan doing rounds of 9 thrusters@95pds+9pullups,9thrusters@95pds+9pullups under my Fran goal time of 6min. Did this for 15 min... Started with 1min rest and wittled it down gradually. My time had been 9 min.. ended up going slightly under 7. .... Max reps for clean&J's @135 for15sec with :45 rest for 15min is a trip. It IS max power output with a heavy sustained heart/respiratory rate thruout.

03-19-2006, 12:15 PM	#10
Tim Morrison Member Profile: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chicago il Posts: 149	gottcha Jesse..misread it. thanks!