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Old 01-30-2008, 03:13 PM   #1
Santos Reyes
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Bachar ladder help

Been reading through the febuary 2004 CF journal on macroclimbing and decided I really want a Bachar ladder. The directions look easy enough and it seems decently cost effective. However, a visit to the local park may have put a halt in my plans. I saw a vertical rope ladder that was supper sturdy. The wood dowel or PVC pipe portion was heavy duty plastic and stayed in place using two screws. I did a search for park/equipment/ladders and didnít have any luck. I went again to take pictures and jumped all over the ladder and it is SOLID! A manufacturer or any experience/advice for finding this product would be great. Thanks
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:04 PM   #2
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Re: Bachar ladder help

A little googleing and I couldn't find it. It looks interesting though...

The most interesting I could find is at the bottom of the page below.

work/family safe link

http://www.urbanhart.com/shopsite/ha...cueladder.html

It might be a lot cheaper to make though...
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:14 PM   #3
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Re: Bachar ladder help

Here's another link, WFS for rope ladders:

http://www.pa.org/store/equipment_cordage_rope.php

There's some interesting stuff there, mostly for outdoor courses.
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:23 PM   #4
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Re: Bachar ladder help

Santos - looks like it's made out of PVC like the orignal Bachar ladder in CFJ.
The only difference is that they used T joints to get the rope through. It does have a bend in it already as you can see however - for kids that would be okay but for adults.... not sure.

If you want to take that route - go for 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 inch pressure PVC pipe (just ask at lowes or home depot), some 1" thick rope, some T couplings, screws and PVC glue. And make yours just like that. For extra security you can add a knot after each connection is done in case screw fails.
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Old 01-30-2008, 08:24 PM   #5
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Re: Bachar ladder help

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Santos - looks like it's made out of PVC like the orignal Bachar ladder in CFJ.
The only difference is that they used T joints to get the rope through. It does have a bend in it already as you can see however - for kids that would be okay but for adults.... not sure.

If you want to take that route - go for 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 inch pressure PVC pipe (just ask at lowes or home depot), some 1" thick rope, some T couplings, screws and PVC glue. And make yours just like that. For extra security you can add a knot after each connection is done in case screw fails.
You know, it does look like thats how it was made, maybe. I cant' believe it would be strong enough for adults if so. It seems like the T would give out? Maybe heavy pvc? Maybe the bolt is the full length?
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Old 01-30-2008, 09:34 PM   #6
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Re: Bachar ladder help

hey if you find the measurements between the steps, use 1.5 in. schedule 40 pvc get some nylon rope drill the holes where you want them and put rope through it, tie the knot and thread it through the other side... repeat on other side. this is far cheaper than the ones in the link, the pipe may cost 12 bucks if you need to make 40 1 ft. steps, and the rope can't possibly be more than 15 bucks for 50 feet. simple too.
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Old 01-30-2008, 09:55 PM   #7
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Re: Bachar ladder help

I want a Bachar Ladder really bad. I nafact I want a mini Macroclimbing course in my place. It may very well happen by the summer.
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Old 01-30-2008, 10:15 PM   #8
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randy why wait. if I had a shop or could work out at home I would already have one set up. you could probably make the one in my design reply for less than 30 bucks. find a drill and make it happen buddy.
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Old 02-03-2008, 01:56 PM   #9
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Re: Bachar ladder help

Bump to see if anyone has tried this?

I stood on a short length of 1/2 inch pvc, around one foot, supported on each end and it didn't even bend. I'm around 230. Honestly, I was a bit surprised. A short length of even small pvc is pretty strong. I'm still not sure of the strength of the connections. I plan to experiment. I'm out of pvc glue, but will do some tests by late week.
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Old 02-03-2008, 10:02 PM   #10
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Roger, sounds good. If it works try and get some pictures of it. I just found an army surplus store that had a poly blend rope for super cheap, want to get on this asap. Santos
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