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Old 03-16-2008, 07:51 PM   #1
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How do you measure neuroendocrine response?

Was going to ask it on the Debunking the Neuroendocrine Response Thread, but it looks like things got a little sidetracked there.

Just want to know what specific chemical compound is being measured when Coach says that there is a greater neuroendocrine response from something like the deadlift vs. bicep curl and how it's measured.

I read through the wiki, which states "Neuroendocrine [IPA nʊəroʊˈɛndəkrɪn] cells are cells that release a hormone into the circulating blood in response to a neural stimulus. These hormones may be amines, neuropeptides, or specialized amino acids. They package the hormones in vesicles and send these packages via long processes (axons) to blood vessels. When stimulated (by hormones from the blood stream or neurons) the neuroendocrine cells secrete the hormones into the blood stream. The hormones then travel to their target cells and may stimulate, inhibit or maintain function of these cells. The target cells may feed back information to these neurons that regulates further secretion."

So are all three measured? Just one? Just my curiosity WRT this statement.

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Old 03-16-2008, 07:54 PM   #2
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Re: How do you measure neuroendocrine response?

The ones I know about are testosterone and Human Growth Hormone.
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Old 03-16-2008, 08:04 PM   #3
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Re: How do you measure neuroendocrine response?

I don't think any were actually measured, heh.

Although if you did (blood serum levels) I'm sure you would find some elevated compared to the homeostasis of such hormones at sedentary levels (will differ from person to person from hour to hour as well).

High stress CNS movements like deadlifts, squats, oly lifts, sprinting and such all will obviously stress said nervous system which tells the brain it needs to stimulate hormone release from organs like the hypothalmus (GH) to cope with the stress. Also, I'm sure muscular damage (microtears) will induce some form of testosterone release as well. I dunno haven't really studied endocrine systems in depth yet; maybe someone else will chime in.

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Old 03-16-2008, 08:12 PM   #4
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Re: How do you measure neuroendocrine response?

Man. So many big words being used around here lately. What happened to the days when people just lifted heavy things and called it a day
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Old 03-16-2008, 08:44 PM   #5
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Re: How do you measure neuroendocrine response?

You use your Neuroendocrine Response Ruler(tm).
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Old 03-16-2008, 08:59 PM   #6
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Re: How do you measure neuroendocrine response?

Just watch the Human Body episodes on the Discovery channel. They do a great job of explaining it all in layman's terms.
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Re: How do you measure neuroendocrine response?

A simple measurements for increased testosterone are flag raising in the morning, if you catch my drift Increased selfconfidence and libido and general well being are more diffuse indicators, but once you learn to pay attention to the signals, you can pretty easily monitor these things by the feeling.

Growth hormone are harder, but Mike Mahler once posted a method on his site. Something about taking a nap after training - empty-stomached - and if you wake up craving sugar really bad, then your GH levels are fine and high. Make a search on it.
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Re: How do you measure neuroendocrine response?

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Just watch the Human Body episodes on the Discovery channel. They do a great job of explaining it all in layman's terms.
This little mini-series, or whatever it you may call it, is awesome. A lot of good information in layman's terms.
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