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Old 07-31-2011, 11:15 PM   #1
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Hook Grip?

Hey guys just wondering do you all use hook grip for Push Press and Thrusters? I do and I was wondering if this was correct
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Old 08-01-2011, 01:46 AM   #2
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Re: Hook Grip?

Its just that I have seen a few firebreathers like Spealler use the hook grip, a few have just thumb around the bar and Rich has no thumb around the bar. Is it just down to personal preference?
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Old 08-01-2011, 04:23 AM   #3
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Re: Hook Grip?

I prefer not to as I'm unable to rest the bar on my deltoids at the bottom of the press if I have a hook grip. I need to let my grip go to maintain a good rack position.
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Old 08-01-2011, 07:52 AM   #4
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Re: Hook Grip?

There's really no reason to hook grip a thruster or push press--the whole point of a hook grip is to use friction rather than crushing strength to allow you to pull a heavier bar from the floor or from the hang, so there wouldn't be any advantage to using it on a shoulder to overhead movement.
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Old 08-01-2011, 08:11 AM   #5
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There's really no reason to hook grip a thruster or push press--the whole point of a hook grip is to use friction rather than crushing strength to allow you to pull a heavier bar from the floor or from the hang, so there wouldn't be any advantage to using it on a shoulder to overhead movement.
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There's really no reason to hook grip a thruster or push press--the whole point of a hook grip is to use friction rather than crushing strength to allow you to pull a heavier bar from the floor or from the hang, so there wouldn't be any advantage to using it on a shoulder to overhead movement.
When you do a clean are you still in a hook grip when the bar is racked? Because I cannot seem to get out of hook grip and use it when i jerk as well however my mate cannot stay in hook grip in the racked position.

Also do you use suicide grip when push pressing or just leave the thumb around?
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Old 08-01-2011, 07:16 PM   #7
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Re: Hook Grip?

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When you do a clean are you still in a hook grip when the bar is racked? Because I cannot seem to get out of hook grip and use it when i jerk as well however my mate cannot stay in hook grip in the racked position.
I, and a lot of people in my gym, typically relax the grip going into the catch to get a little more length on the lower arm and allow for higher elbows. Going into the jerk I'll give the bar a slight bounce to reposition my elbows and regrip.

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Also do you use suicide grip when push pressing or just leave the thumb around?
No suicide grip. If the bar slips a little there's nothing to catch it and if I have to bail I just let go and get out from under it.
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Old 08-01-2011, 07:24 PM   #8
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Re: Hook Grip?

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When you do a clean are you still in a hook grip when the bar is racked? Because I cannot seem to get out of hook grip and use it when i jerk as well however my mate cannot stay in hook grip in the racked position.

Also do you use suicide grip when push pressing or just leave the thumb around?
Not many people have the flexibility to hook while in the rack position. As was said, loosen your grip as you whip the elbows around, it will allow the bar to move quicker into position.

Suicide grip is the last option for those that don't have the flexibility to wrap the thumb around the bar. It's definitely not ideal.
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Hey guys just wondering do you all use hook grip for Push Press and Thrusters? I do and I was wondering if this was correct
No, I use the hook for pulling movements.
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When you do a clean are you still in a hook grip when the bar is racked? Because I cannot seem to get out of hook grip and use it when i jerk as well however my mate cannot stay in hook grip in the racked position.

Also do you use suicide grip when push pressing or just leave the thumb around?
Pretty much what Veronica said.

When I rack a heavy clean I'm just guiding the bar with the tips of my first two fingers. Then I reset my hands and get a push press style grip before I jerk. I can't think of any reason you'd want to stay in a hook grip in the rack position.

I wrap my thumb around for push presses or jerks to give me better control on the bar. I can get my elbows far enough in front of the bar to have a solid rack yet still have my fingers and thumbs wrapped around.
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