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Old 11-27-2007, 09:22 PM   #41
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Re: A gallon of milk?

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Legumes, and of course your non-Zone-favorable fruits and veggies, like carrots, peas, and kiwis.

Oh, and water and plastic containers.

And cell phones.

And children.
Why give up children? I'm trying to have one! Ok, not me but well..ah you get it.

I have carrots daily. I'm fully convinced that the GI of one measly carrot a day in my salad that has a ton of low GI veggies as well as protein and fat, is not going to kill me. Plus carrots taste wonderful, especially organics.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:03 PM   #42
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Re: A gallon of milk?

Patrick, thanks for the link, duly noted. It's still pretty early in the experiment so I'll stay the course another couple of weeks and reassess at that point. It should be noted that I'm still eating very clean and zone precise, not "bulking up" in the traditional bodybuilding sense by eating everything in sight. Just trying to gain a bit of muscle and strength to hopefully improve on the heavier WODs such as "Elizabeth" and "Diane." I'm perfectly willing to trade 1-2% BF to achieve that end. Also, I have no intention of drinking a gallon of milk/day for the rest of my life. If and when I do reach what I believe to be an optimal weight and size for me, I fully intend to recalibrate my zone blocks based on my new LBM. Having said all that, the article has certainly given me food for thought, and I appreciate it.
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:20 AM   #43
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And children.
I couldn't eat a whole one.
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:59 AM   #44
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Well, of course not. That would be like ten blocks.
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:09 PM   #45
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I can attest to the value of this 'gallon of milk' idea. I started working out at 30, at a soft, weak, 150 pounds. I screwed away six months in a Ballys. I found Dave Draper's site, I found Bob Whelans Site, I found Triggs Garage Gym, and I found Keys to Progress by John McCallum. So I went retro, did a serious stint of unpleasant heavy work, consumed a cubic ton of dairy products, and eventually (two years later) hit 215. Went paleo, dropped to a solid 190. Did I get fat? Yes. Did it matter? No. All the muscle I have ever put on I put on in those two years. Your mileage may vary. Now a smarter person would have probably alternated a month or two of the squats & milk with a month straight up crossfit (and a cleaner diet), and have even better results.

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Old 11-29-2007, 09:43 AM   #46
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Re: A gallon of milk?

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Yup. I heard something like we can gain a maximum of 2lbs(muscle) per month if we do everything correctly.
you could squat once a week and deadlift heavy once a week with a high caloric intake and gain way more then 2lbs of LBM a month...If your training heavy and eating alot and only gaining 2lbs of muscle a month....
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:53 AM   #47
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Re: A gallon of milk?

http://www.calorie-count.com/calorie...id=1082&size=3

thats only 1 qt of milk and it has 55g of sugar(lactose) not much in the way of lean mass gains there.

also a double scoop of whey has twice the protein...just eat an animal and lift heavy things....sleep then do it all over again.
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:57 AM   #48
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http://www.calorie-count.com/calories/item/88686.html

The fat content in whole milk is significantly greater. Your example was 1% milkfat milk (aka, ew nasty watered down milk ew grose blech !!11eleventy!!111!!one!!!11)
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:18 AM   #49
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In reference to the 'eat better food'....part of the help here is that you are ingesting a lot of calories, a lot of times a day. So if you are going to be using a protein powder (which will certainly work) you need to add fats AND calories if you are trying to build fast. It's easier (read: more efficient) to err on the side of too much nutrition, and lose the fat you gain, than to try some perfect balance of trying to bulk while staying lean. Mind you this goes against a lot of the intentions of crossfit for most people. In a perfect world we'd be raised with beyond adequate nutrition coupled with serious physical training froma young age. Failing that you do what you can to make up for lost time. I would expect the folks working SS and Crossfit in rotations (either simultaneously or serialy) should have an effective thing going. I think the basic troubleshoot for most people trying to make muscle gains runs like:

1. train smarter and harder
2. train harder and with progression
3. eat better and more
4. rest better and more

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Old 11-29-2007, 12:09 PM   #50
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i would meet pukie in a whole new way if i tried this
For the lactose intolerant -- would it work with Soy Milk?

Although I suspect the ensuing flatulence would be deadly -- for friends and family if not the drinker.
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