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Old 02-03-2007, 07:28 PM   #1
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Do you use a false grip on a bar muscle up? No access to rings so I've been trying to learn these. It would be a shorter lever right...?
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Old 02-03-2007, 08:17 PM   #2
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I find it much easier to get on top of the bar with a false grip. I probably couldn't get up there w/o it
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:35 PM   #3
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I'll have to give it a go next time. Thanks
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Old 02-04-2007, 05:45 AM   #4
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As Coach says, using a false grip is imperative for the completion of a muscle up. It is nearly impossible without it.
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Old 02-04-2007, 12:07 PM   #5
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Kipping bar muscle up: you don't need it, but it helps tremendously. If you ARE NOT going to use it, you have to flip your wrists up as your body rises. This is much like a regular kip in gymnastics in terms of the last half of the rising phase to support.

Dead hang bar muscle up: It is pretty much required that you take a false grip. If you don't, then it is absurdly hard to rotate your wrists up while pulling yourself up. I have no doubt that it can be done, but I don't think I can do it... and I can do a dead hang muscle up on rings without a false grip. So it is harder head hang on a bar than on rings. Kipping on rings is harder than a kipping on bars.

kipping bar < kipping rings < dead hang rings < dead hang bar
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:47 AM   #6
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I've been trying to do a bar muscle up using a false grip as well. I ran into a CrossFit coach at the gym the other day who could do them, but couldn't do a MU on rings.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:51 AM   #7
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For the vast majority of people, a bar MU will be easier simply because you all have more experience doing pullups and variations thereof on bars. For people/gymnasts who learn muscle ups on rings when they're young and have the technique grounded into them.. then it's going to be easier than a bar muscle up when all is said and done. It boils down to the path of movement vs. a bit of stabilization. The former is harder than the latter given optimal technique.
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:47 PM   #8
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Personally I recommend learning a bar MU (deadhang kip) with a kipping motion. Make it dynamic and flow through reps. No false grip required and a fantastic functional exercise. Work em slow occasionally, but the bulk should be dynamic.
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Old 02-05-2007, 06:00 PM   #9
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The bar on the Pull-Up/Dip station at your local big-box guy is often split, allowing you to pass 'through' the bar instead of around, making the exercise MUCH easier. Its a great gateway verstion of the exercise, and lends itself to Roger's dynamic sets, which I also enjoy.
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Old 02-05-2007, 06:18 PM   #10
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In trying to do a muscle up, I've started in reverse, i.e. arms locked upright on the rings and then lower myself down. I have found I cannot lower myself down without turning the rings and my wrists into a false grip. When doing this it is clear why it is impossible to do a muscle up without starting with a false grip.
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