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Old 01-26-2009, 04:39 PM   #71
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Re: 100-0 : Your thoughts?

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In high school, there was a football team that was a division higher than us and beat us every year by 50-60 points. The coach usually put in his backups by the 4th quarter. My senior year I had 53 yards rushing against his number one squad. In the 3rd quarter I busted a 60 yarder against a mix of his number 1 and 2 guys as he was starting to phase them in. It was a second string corner I made miss to get the opening and ultimately the score.

My point is this. As a player I was upset that we were scheduled to play this team because we had no business being on the field with a team that good, and they got nothing out of playing us; that being said, when people congratulated me for going over 100 yards against them (something only 1 or 2 people did the whole year including state playoffs) I felt like a schmuck. As far as I was and still am concerned, I only had 53 yards against that team. I know this is a personal competitive view, but am I wrong for thinking it's the right one?
makes 100% sense to me man, im with you
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Old 01-26-2009, 04:48 PM   #72
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ANd from the other side, how much fun is it to play a team you know you are going to beat? You want to play to the best of your ability and then you feel like a bully.
Agreed 100%. I have no hard feelings against those guys for pounding us; I'm only sorry we couldn't have been better competition for them.
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Old 01-26-2009, 05:05 PM   #73
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Re: 100-0 : Your thoughts?

Again,
Who benefitted? No one. That's not what school age sports are supposed to be. No amount of football war stories will convince me otherwise. Actually, the opposite. What I see is several people reliving their former gridiron joy and shame through a bunch of LD girls. You won or lost or whatever in High School folks, that doesn't change the fact that this b-ball game was a blight on H.S. sports
 
Old 01-26-2009, 05:17 PM   #74
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Again,
Who benefitted? No one. That's not what school age sports are supposed to be. No amount of football war stories will convince me otherwise. Actually, the opposite. What I see is several people reliving their former gridiron joy and shame through a bunch of LD girls. You won or lost or whatever in High School folks, that doesn't change the fact that this b-ball game was a blight on H.S. sports
no the problem is you're a pretentious, pompous, soft jerk with a holier than though self-righteous attitude (or at least so it would seem as per your stance here). You are the problem, yourself and people with the same attitude. NO ONE will man up and learn a life lesson anymore. Everyone needs to be protected from any potential negative emotional distress. AND should that take place it MUST be someones fault.....we have to peg someone to be held responsible as the scape goat for it so we can administer punishment to make ourselves feel better.

Its BS
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Old 01-26-2009, 05:59 PM   #75
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Kevin you don't know me, I don't f on the first date. Six years of high school football isn't exactly a lifelong athlete.

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No amount of football war stories will convince me otherwise. Actually, the opposite. What I see is several people reliving their former gridiron joy and shame through a bunch of LD girls. You won or lost or whatever in High School folks, that doesn't change the fact that this b-ball game was a blight on H.S. sports

I only used the "war stories" because from your previous posts I've concluded that one must build exceptional ethos. Considering Kevin's outstanding resume was insufficient to appeal to you, I should've known better than to think such an anecdote would. Shame on me.
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Old 01-26-2009, 06:53 PM   #76
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Re: 100-0 : Your thoughts?

Guys seriously, keep it civil! There is no need to get so heated over such a minor thing. If it escalates much more the mods will probably close the thread!

Robert (good name) i agree that the game was a blight on HS sports. But you CANNOT blame the more skilled players or coach for that! Blame the losing teams coach for not adequately preparing them, the losing teams administration for hiring a sub par coach, or the organizer that scheduled the games, but as soon as you start punishing people for success you start down a very slippery slope. They came out their and did what they trained to do. Was it classy? Was it necessary? Maybe not, but they worked within the frame work provided to them and excelled. To then turn around and punish them for that is totally *** backwards and sending the wrong signals.

We do not need to bring everyone to the lowest common denominator, but rather bring them up to a higher level of preformance. This is part of what CF runs on and why most of the people here are defending the winning team.

I hope that makes sense

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Old 01-26-2009, 07:25 PM   #77
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Re: 100-0 : Your thoughts?

Seriously- read the AUP, everybody. There's already been direct name-calling in a thread that seriously doesn't need it.

On the keep-the-game-going side, a ridiculously small school like that (the team they're gathering being little more than a pick-up-game team, and probably not putting a great emphasis on hiring world-class coaches) not only knows it's going to lose, but from the girl's reactions, probably doesn't care. 100-0 is a bit dramatic, but so what? Someone mentioned that perhaps these girls just have other motives like playing basketball with their peers at other schools, and being state champs isn't something they care about. If that's the case, it's hardly humiliating to the losing team to play your best. They're expecting it.

A few other people had options here- the organizers in scheduling the matches, the principals of the schools, etc. Having a team that bad in the league isn't a fluke- everyone knows it and likely knows their potential, so this can't have been unexpected. What makes it different is the character of the coach for the winning team. Could he have played a more practice-style game for the same of helping the team? Maybe. Could he have let his girls play to their best ability and absolutely trounce their opponent (worse than 100-0, that is)? Certainly. A soldier can kill another man and, so long as he does it legally and professionally, we accept it.

That being the case, with the right spin on the coach's response, he probably wouldn't have been fired. The reporting sealed the deal. Some of the articles suggest that the coach was egging his team on to keep scoring again and again, that the girls were 'excited,' and so were the fans. The media painted a picture of a Coliseum slaughterhouse, and whether this happened or not, the coach's career at a Christian school was done. They can't afford to be seen as blood-makes-the-grass-grow-kill-kill-kill players. That's not what these sports are about. We could be seeing a case of Makimba Media, where the framing of the mean-old-drill-sergeant-physical-trainer beating up on the poor-all-american-sailor potentially tainted the portrayal of the event. Who knows?
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Old 01-26-2009, 08:02 PM   #78
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Re: 100-0 : Your thoughts?

Why so much hate and blanked out words in this thread?

Seriously you all need to be deadlifting more with the extra energy that's going into the ad hominem attacks.
 
Old 01-26-2009, 08:48 PM   #79
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Re: 100-0 : Your thoughts?

Kevin, again you don't know me. I'm sorry I'm not impressed by your athletic acheivements. I'm sorry my opinion of a 100-0 b-ball game doesn't match yours. Many who know me would giggle to hear someone with your "resume" call me soft, but you may be right. I don't believe girl's b-ball is a bloodsport, therefore you probably are right about me being "the problem, I am most definitely a jerk, self righteous, not so much. As for the emotional this and that, if nothing else it pushed your buttons. F me again, football star. Peace be upon you.

John, no amount of football stories could build an ethos in my world, sorry. I'm glad you were impressed with Kevin's resume. Peace be upon you too.
 
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Kevin, again you don't know me. I'm sorry I'm not impressed by your athletic acheivements. I'm sorry my opinion of a 100-0 b-ball game doesn't match yours. Many who know me would giggle to hear someone with your "resume" call me soft, but you may be right. I don't believe girl's b-ball is a bloodsport, therefore you probably are right about me being "the problem, I am most definitely a jerk, self righteous, not so much. As for the emotional this and that, if nothing else it pushed your buttons. F me again, football star. Peace be upon you.

John, no amount of football stories could build an ethos in my world, sorry. I'm glad you were impressed with Kevin's resume. Peace be upon you too.
it has nothing to do with my "resume" it has everything to do with your lack-luster attitude and socialist everyone needs a hug outlook on sports.

you're the one that called me out as a life long athlete, so more power to you dude. I'm sorry I didn't play womb-soccer or ovary-baseball while i was eligible for the fetus-league......cause thats the only way i could have been an athlete longer.

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