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Old 02-08-2012, 09:09 PM   #11
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Re: Clydesdale Men: Represent!

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wonder if there has been research to whether a pullup at 250 vs 185 is the same amount of "work".
No. You are moving 35% more weight the same distance...so you are doing 35% more work. Which is why most of the wods are geared towards smaller guys (almost all have bodyweight components).

Take Fran for instance, you'd be doing 35% more work on all the pullups. And for the thrusters even though you'd be doing the same weight, you'd actually be lifting more of your bodyweight on the squat as well so you're doing more work there too....albeit not 35% more because of weight distribution on the body and the 95lbs barbell common to both lifters.

Which is why the distribution for Fran on btwb looks like this...
men 140-160 sample size: 626 | mean: 6 mins 29 secs | median: 5 mins 56 secs | standard deviation: 2 mins 50 secs
men 160-180 sample size: 1956 | mean: 6 mins 13 secs | median: 5 mins 40 secs | standard deviation: 2 mins 53 secs
men 180-200 sample size: 2011 | mean: 6 mins 13 secs | median: 5 mins 42 secs | standard deviation: 2 mins 45 secs
men 200-220 sample size: 1025 | mean: 6 mins 34 secs | median: 6 mins 4 secs | standard deviation: 2 mins 55 secs
men 220-240 sample size: 407 | mean: 6 mins 57 secs | median: 6 mins 34 secs | standard deviation: 2 mins 59 secs
men 240-260 sample size: 128 | mean: 7 mins 17 secs | median: 6 mins 26 secs | standard deviation: 3 mins 1 sec
men 260-280 sample size: 60 | mean: 8 mins 27 secs | median: 7 mins 31 secs | standard deviation: 4 mins 2 secs

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Old 02-08-2012, 10:06 PM   #12
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Noice! if you got a big boy in your gym\region and they are registering for Open, please link Profile!

I don't expect to do well at all, being < 1 year in from 6 years of nothing. However, I'm addicted!

http://games.crossfit.com/athlete/5750 = me.
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Old 02-08-2012, 10:08 PM   #13
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Dude that is great stat reference! you rock!
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:46 AM   #14
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No. You are moving 35% more weight the same distance...so you are doing 35% more work. Which is why most of the wods are geared towards smaller guys (almost all have bodyweight components).

Take Fran for instance, you'd be doing 35% more work on all the pullups. And for the thrusters even though you'd be doing the same weight, you'd actually be lifting more of your bodyweight on the squat as well so you're doing more work there too....albeit not 35% more because of weight distribution on the body and the 95lbs barbell common to both lifters.

Which is why the distribution for Fran on btwb looks like this...
men 140-160 sample size: 626 | mean: 6 mins 29 secs | median: 5 mins 56 secs | standard deviation: 2 mins 50 secs
men 160-180 sample size: 1956 | mean: 6 mins 13 secs | median: 5 mins 40 secs | standard deviation: 2 mins 53 secs
men 180-200 sample size: 2011 | mean: 6 mins 13 secs | median: 5 mins 42 secs | standard deviation: 2 mins 45 secs
men 200-220 sample size: 1025 | mean: 6 mins 34 secs | median: 6 mins 4 secs | standard deviation: 2 mins 55 secs
men 220-240 sample size: 407 | mean: 6 mins 57 secs | median: 6 mins 34 secs | standard deviation: 2 mins 59 secs
men 240-260 sample size: 128 | mean: 7 mins 17 secs | median: 6 mins 26 secs | standard deviation: 3 mins 1 sec
men 260-280 sample size: 60 | mean: 8 mins 27 secs | median: 7 mins 31 secs | standard deviation: 4 mins 2 secs
Wow, that is some impressive stuff you got there Matt. Very interesting.

In other news, I was 247 Monday night, and 241 this morning. Might not be able to post in this thread much longer.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:34 AM   #15
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At around 240 my Fran time is 4:13...if I could just get those pullups unbroken
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:57 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by Matt Haxmeier

No. You are moving 35% more weight the same distance...so you are doing 35% more work. Which is why most of the wods are geared towards smaller guys (almost all have bodyweight components).


FWIW...distance traveled isnt always the same on pullups (or anything else)

I'm 6'6" 215 (trying to get heavier everyday)...when I'm doing a pullup I have to move my heavier weight much farther than someone of more typical height (assuming they have typical arm length). Beyond the Whiteboard will do these calculations for you.
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:06 AM   #17
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At around 240 my Fran time is 4:13...if I could just get those pullups unbroken
That is a good time...nothing to frown about. At 235, my Fran is around 4:50ish. I can do the first 21 pull-ups unbroken but they rest are done in sets. I am the "heaviest" trainer there so I am kinda on my own in terms of performance.
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Got some smaller guys but not as strong.

What is amazing is how he's been doing this for less than 1 year and how well he has progressed.
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:37 AM   #19
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That is a good time...nothing to frown about. At 235, my Fran is around 4:50ish. I can do the first 21 pull-ups unbroken but they rest are done in sets. I am the "heaviest" trainer there so I am kinda on my own in terms of performance.
I haven't done a fran since week1, and i was like 10 mins.. However, I couldn't do pull ups yet either then lol. My last round of 9 took me 5+ mins to get them.
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:22 PM   #20
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Re: Clydesdale Men: Represent!

at 5' 11", 225 and 50 years old i am one of if not the biggest gym in our gym and the 2nd oldest by 4 months.

i am usually at the back of the pac for the speed timed wods but when it comes to the weight wods i am usually in the top 4 or 5.

my mind still wants to be a 30something firebreather unfortunaly my body is not happy with that idea.

i am still struggling to get my mind to convice my body that it is o.k. to be fifty + and still be doing what i do 5 or 6 days a week.

i have dropped 25 lbs since august and have noticed many of my timed wods have gotten faster and my stength has stayed the same.

given when i look around at others my age group they are by and large much bigger and way more sloth like i am quite happy!
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