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Old 08-04-2010, 12:34 PM   #1
Nathan Doud
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rippetoe power clean vs olympic power clean

Rip and the OLY guys have differnt versions of a power clean and how to teach it, Rip teaches as basically jumping with the bar and teaches from rack to drop.

Where as the OLY guys teach to triple extend but not actually jump..

they also have differnt starting postions, Rip says its a deadlift, the OLY guys say its not.

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Old 08-04-2010, 12:39 PM   #2
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Re: rippetoe power clean vs olympic power clean

The jump is a way to teach the triple extension. Most people know what "jump" means, very few know what a "triple extension" is.

I disagree with rip on the start position.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:44 PM   #3
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Re: rippetoe power clean vs olympic power clean

My first thought is that Rip's focus is mainly teaching young guys who want to get strong quickly. Power clean is used to help the deadlift, not the full clean. He probably doesn't have the time to go nuts about starting positions etc., since his main focus is on getting people strong in a hurry. He probably has enough trouble getting people to deadlift correctly...god forbid he should teach a 2nd starting position.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:49 PM   #4
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Re: rippetoe power clean vs olympic power clean

If you're serious about improving your power clean, you should do it properly, aka NOT the deadlift starting position but rather the clean starting position.
The power clean should be essentially the same as the clean, you just don't go down as far.
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Old 08-04-2010, 01:11 PM   #5
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Re: rippetoe power clean vs olympic power clean

Another difference is that many OL'ers now catapult, which reduces the need for triple extending (or at least over extending).

And really, where to start often depends on the individual. I use a lot of back on both pulls due to my build, however, when pulling any sort of clean, my shoulders are slightly in front of the bar, but when deadlifting, my shoulders are behind the bar, although again only slightly. However, this difference does change my starting position.
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Old 08-04-2010, 01:28 PM   #6
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Re: rippetoe power clean vs olympic power clean

"OL'ers now catapult"

THats a full clean, the discussion was power clean.
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Old 08-04-2010, 01:48 PM   #7
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Re: rippetoe power clean vs olympic power clean

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"OL'ers now catapult"

THats a full clean, the discussion was power clean.

I know quite a few (most who catapult) who practice the power clean the same way as the full clean so as not to alter the mechanics of the pull.

FWIW, I dislike this technique, and triple extend myself, not that it has any bearing on the discussion.
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Old 08-04-2010, 01:52 PM   #8
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Re: rippetoe power clean vs olympic power clean

Eric,

Then you have to ask "why are you power cleaning'?

If it is to improve your clean, then you would still catapult.

If it is for athletic conditioning, then you would triple extend
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Old 08-04-2010, 01:59 PM   #9
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Re: rippetoe power clean vs olympic power clean

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Eric,

Then you have to ask "why are you power cleaning'?

If it is to improve your clean, then you would still catapult.

If it is for athletic conditioning, then you would triple extend
The OP was referring to the cleans and/or power cleans of OL'ers, different versions, etc. And as no one had presented this as a difference either, I thought it might be useful to point out as yet another reason for variance in technique.

As the OP has not expanded on why he is doing it, seems like a valid point.
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Old 08-04-2010, 02:06 PM   #10
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Re: rippetoe power clean vs olympic power clean

Eric,

Good point.

Nathan,

which is it?
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