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Old 05-05-2010, 10:07 PM   #1
Aidan Macdonald
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Wearing a belt

I know this came up a lot before, but I want to get some responses to the below links.

I honestly respect Justin and am confused at the whole anti-belt trend.

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If belts make you get stronger faster, then what is wrong with them. I understand that a lift with the belt won't be possible without the belt. The below numbers are an idea of how I interpreted the information

Today
Deadlift 300

If I trained the next year with a belt
Belted Deadlift 600
UnBelted Deadlift 500

If I trained the next year without a belt
UnBelted Deadlift 400
Belted Deadlift 400


If big named people would respond, I would be honored! (Because I am quite confused)
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:17 PM   #2
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Re: Wearing a belt

I'm not a big named person, Justin himself may chime in here if your lucky.

You don't seem confused. You got the concept pretty well. Whats confusing?
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Old 05-06-2010, 06:19 AM   #3
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Re: Wearing a belt

I'm confused as to your confusion. Are you looking for the argument against wearing a belt?

I think people believe that the belt is an unnecessary aid to lifting that helps strengthen a weak link in your PC and the argument would be that this would cause you to perhaps injure yourself in "real life" if you were lifting something w/out the belt. Seems this opinion is shared mostly by people who don't know much about lifting and belts. However, Justin, Ripp, and many others have a different opinion based on their years of experience, as you illustrated above.
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Old 05-06-2010, 06:44 AM   #4
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Re: Wearing a belt

If you want a true expert, read this stuff about Mel Siff:

http://www.drmelsiff.com/9334/dr-mel...ltless-part-1/
http://www.drmelsiff.com/9337/dr-mel...ltless-part-2/

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Old 05-06-2010, 09:46 AM   #5
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Re: Wearing a belt

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If big named people would respond, I would be honored! (Because I am quite confused)
My name is isn't just big, it's huge. Got like 14 letters in it.

There isn't a point to be confused about because the common arguments for belt-less lifting either fail to understand the role of the belt in the lifts, or center on some other philosophical priority (e.g. It's always best to do anything just like Grok!) . Physiologically speaking there is no performance benefit to always lifting belt-less.
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Old 05-06-2010, 10:36 AM   #6
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Re: Wearing a belt

When is a good time to start wearing a belt? I'm at around 260 on my BS and 270 on my DL for my 5x3s.
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Old 05-06-2010, 10:45 AM   #7
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Re: Wearing a belt

RYan,

when you need to.
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Old 05-06-2010, 10:54 AM   #8
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RYan,

when you need to.
I have no idea what that means. I'll go ahead and order one, I'm starting to dread stepping under that damned squat and I like the idea of something to mentally make me feel like I have an advantage I didn't have last workout.
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Old 05-06-2010, 10:55 AM   #9
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When is a good time to start wearing a belt? I'm at around 260 on my BS and 270 on my DL for my 5x3s.
I started after a reset or two on both my squat and deadlift. Maybe that was early. Go as long as you can without a belt, until it starts to affect progress.
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I started after a reset or two on both my squat and deadlift. Maybe that was early. Go as long as you can without a belt, until it starts to affect progress.
What are the reasons to not wear one? After reading that 70's Big article it seems like you'll actually make more progress by using one, do you disagree with that?

(Also, any suggestions for a good all-around belt to buy for SS?)
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