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Old 11-08-2005, 05:54 PM   #1
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Here is my Clean and Jerk from a Front View and a Side View. Believe it or not, I was actually trying to use good technique. The most obvious flaw is that I initiate the movemenet with an arm bend. Any other input would be greatly appreciated. The movies are in quicktime format.



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Old 11-08-2005, 05:59 PM   #2
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My wife Elena would also appreciate a critique of her technique, which is leaps and bounds ahead of mine. Here is her C&J from the front and side. Her movies are also in quicktime.


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Old 11-09-2005, 07:08 AM   #3
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Gene,

I'm not an Olympic lifting expert but I have a few comments so take it for what it's worth.

The labels for side and front are switched just so you know...haha I was a bit confused when I first opened them up.

Gene Clean side(so really front): You cleaned the weight up as a power clean...and then did a front squat. The squat should be a component of the catch. So you would be cleaning it up and then sinking into the squat.

Gene Clean Front(so really side): You bend your elbows before triple extension it seems like. (I wish Quicktime came with a slow button)

Elena Front: Good pull, good extension elbows bending after triple extension. The catch...um I'm not sure I will have to let someone more qualified than me. (this shows my lack of expertise..haha )

Elena Side: Seems like she might want the bar closer to her shins so her shoulders are more over the bar. http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/flat_back.html
Her start position should be more akin to the picture on the right.

Just my 2 cents
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Old 11-09-2005, 08:33 AM   #4
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Gene - your hip position is too high at the start, you're almost horizontal. You are bending your elbows too soon and pulling with the arms.
http://www.crossfit.com/discus/messages/13350/15936.jpg

Elena - she lets her back round off as the bar comes off the ground. She needs to stay tight and keep that curve in her low back. The bar is way too far out in front during the second pull. It needs to slide up the thighs. She also exhibits a bit of an early arm bend, though not as pronounced.
http://www.crossfit.com/discus/messages/13350/15937.jpg

Both of you should keep your weight back on your heels longer.

Keep it up! Really not too bad, all basically common beginner errors that can be fixed.
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Old 11-09-2005, 10:55 AM   #5
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Just to clarify, those are cleans, not clean and jerks. Clean and jerks go from the ground to overhead, cleans go from the ground to the shoulders.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:23 PM   #6
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Thanks for the pointers Lincoln and Allen. I appreciate your taking the time to help. I hope to take more video soon and hopefully exhibit a better starting position and less arm bend.

Lincoln-We are in Tempe and those videos were taken at Crossfit Southwest. Someday soon, Elena and I will have to visit you in Sedona on a weekend.

Russ-the first sentence mistakenly says "clean and jerk" instead of "power clean-front squat." Since the message is more than 30 minutes old, I can't edit it. How about some constructive feedback on the power clean-front squat to go along with the semantics?

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Old 11-09-2005, 05:03 PM   #7
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Sorry, I have a problem with focusing on words. But anyways, are you trying to do a power clean to a front squat, or a squat clean? These are two different exercises. In an ideal squat clean, you don't pull the bar up to you and then go down into a squat, you pull yourself under the bar. This takes practice, speed, and technique. Once you get into the top of the pull you want to immediately drop under the bar as quickly as possible. The faster you do that, the less powerful your pull has to be.
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Old 11-09-2005, 05:13 PM   #8
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Gene,
We're having the grand opening on the Saturday the 19th from 9 am to 1 pm so come on up! We're going to have a barbecue, some demonstrations, and I'll need some victims for Fight Gone Bad.
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Old 11-13-2005, 07:06 PM   #9
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Lincoln,
what are you using to get those vid-caps?
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Old 11-15-2005, 10:47 AM   #10
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Quick Time, it's a standard feature. Put the video on pause, rock the slider back and forth until you get the frame you want. Go to the Edit menu, select "Copy". Paste into your favorite image editor, save.
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