Are these the same bar?

Steven Thunander · 05-03-2014, 01:40 PM

Are these three bars the same bar? they have the same specs, but are sold by three different companies.

http://www.fringesport.com/collectio...c-20kg-oly-bar (WFS)
Bomba Bar 20kg Bright Zinc bar

https://www.againfaster.com/shop/bar...-team-barbell/(WFS)
Again Faster 20kg Team AF Bright Zinc bar (V2)

http://www.maxwod.com/collections/we...e#.U2VSd3Z40YI (WFS)
Maxwod 20kg Bright Zinc bar

Specs on all of these bars:
Weight- 20kg/44lbs
Diameter- 28.5 mm
Length of the Bar 86"
Distance between the Sleeves- 52 3/4"
Length of the Sleeves- 16 1/2"
165k PSI Tensile Strength
Snap Ring Design
Dual Olympic Knurl Marks
Self Lubricating Oil-lite bushings
No Center Knurling- Medium Knurling
Silver Zinc- Shaft & Sleeves
Made in the USA

I am wondering if these three bars are made in the same plant and are identical to each other.

Peter Keller · 05-06-2014, 02:30 PM

This is an interesting thread and you are very perceptive.

Chris Wyckoff · 05-06-2014, 02:36 PM

I had been wondering about this as well

Peter anything going on with the new oly bar from fringe?

Jon Gilson · 05-07-2014, 02:22 AM

Steven,

I like what you're doing on the Boards. Transparency is a good thing for all of us, and I really enjoy your thoughts.

In the interest of transparency:

They're not the same bar, guaranteed (after 5+ years on the market with this item, we're on Gen 3.0 of the Again Faster Team Barbell with a protected design), but there's plenty of reverse engineering in the world of equipment, especially within the CrossFit market.

The reality: We create a path, engineering, testing, and refining, and those new to the business are often content to follow us. In the paraphrased words of Bill Henniger: "You and I compete, just like we always have. They're just copying us."

The challenge for us is to engineer better solutions, bring them to market faster, and to protect our IP. In the absence of this triad, the amount of time to reap any commercial reward (and recoup our investment) shrinks incredibly fast as more followers find the market.

Therefore, we simply stay ahead of the curve. Better gear, faster. Investment in design, execution, service, and education. If the customer trusts our brand and our innovation pedigree, they'll shop with us. That is our burden and our responsibility.

In the end, we'll let the followers follow. By definition, they'll always be behind.

Best,

Jon

Peter Keller · 05-07-2014, 08:41 PM

Hey Chris!

Final samples are on my warehouse floor.

We're very close. Chad is a stickler for quality, spin, etc.

05-03-2014, 01:40 PM	#1
Steven Thunander Member Profile: Join Date: May 2010 Location: Milwaukee WI Posts: 614	Are these the same bar? Are these three bars the same bar? they have the same specs, but are sold by three different companies. http://www.fringesport.com/collectio...c-20kg-oly-bar (WFS) Bomba Bar 20kg Bright Zinc bar https://www.againfaster.com/shop/bar...-team-barbell/(WFS) Again Faster 20kg Team AF Bright Zinc bar (V2) http://www.maxwod.com/collections/we...e#.U2VSd3Z40YI (WFS) Maxwod 20kg Bright Zinc bar Specs on all of these bars: Weight- 20kg/44lbs Diameter- 28.5 mm Length of the Bar 86" Distance between the Sleeves- 52 3/4" Length of the Sleeves- 16 1/2" 165k PSI Tensile Strength Snap Ring Design Dual Olympic Knurl Marks Self Lubricating Oil-lite bushings No Center Knurling- Medium Knurling Silver Zinc- Shaft & Sleeves Made in the USA I am wondering if these three bars are made in the same plant and are identical to each other.

05-06-2014, 02:30 PM	#2
Peter Keller Member Profile: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Austin TX Posts: 337	Re: Are these the same bar? This is an interesting thread and you are very perceptive.
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05-06-2014, 02:36 PM	#3
Chris Wyckoff Member Profile: Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Manassas VA Posts: 37	Re: Are these the same bar? I had been wondering about this as well Peter anything going on with the new oly bar from fringe?

05-07-2014, 02:22 AM	#4
Jon Gilson Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Boston MA Posts: 814	Re: Are these the same bar? Steven, I like what you're doing on the Boards. Transparency is a good thing for all of us, and I really enjoy your thoughts. In the interest of transparency: They're not the same bar, guaranteed (after 5+ years on the market with this item, we're on Gen 3.0 of the Again Faster Team Barbell with a protected design), but there's plenty of reverse engineering in the world of equipment, especially within the CrossFit market. The reality: We create a path, engineering, testing, and refining, and those new to the business are often content to follow us. In the paraphrased words of Bill Henniger: "You and I compete, just like we always have. They're just copying us." The challenge for us is to engineer better solutions, bring them to market faster, and to protect our IP. In the absence of this triad, the amount of time to reap any commercial reward (and recoup our investment) shrinks incredibly fast as more followers find the market. Therefore, we simply stay ahead of the curve. Better gear, faster. Investment in design, execution, service, and education. If the customer trusts our brand and our innovation pedigree, they'll shop with us. That is our burden and our responsibility. In the end, we'll let the followers follow. By definition, they'll always be behind. Best, Jon
	__________________ "Good intentions are no excuse for incompetence." -Peter Drucker www.againfaster.com Last edited by Jon Gilson; 05-07-2014 at 02:51 AM..

05-07-2014, 08:41 PM	#5
Peter Keller Member Profile: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Austin TX Posts: 337	Re: Are these the same bar? Hey Chris! Final samples are on my warehouse floor. We're very close. Chad is a stickler for quality, spin, etc.
	__________________ CEO, FringeSport WFS