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Old 11-18-2008, 09:46 PM   #11
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Re: Substitution - Olympic Lifts?

Mark, I have found a couple links that may be helpful for you to at least look at training options. All links are WFS.

This article provides contact information for Josh Johns, who runs the Adelaide Weightlifting Club--it may be out of date but it's worth a check.

Here is the website for the South Australian Weight Lifting Association. They would probably know of any coaches or clubs in your area.

Finally, if neither of those work you could try contacting someone at the Australia Weightlifting Federation and see if they can help you.

I hope this helps! Greg's book is fantastic and has a lot of good progressions, but I'm sure even he would agree there is no substitute for having a trained eye look at you if you can swing it.
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:48 PM   #12
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Thanks Emily - I'll check them out.
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:50 PM   #13
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Oh, and what is "WFS" please?
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Old 11-18-2008, 10:35 PM   #14
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Oh, that just means the links are Work and Family Safe. We're supposed to designate whether or not any link we put up is work or family safe, otherwise the moderators ban you.
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Old 11-19-2008, 01:26 AM   #15
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otherwise the moderators ban you.
Actually, David generally gives a warning and possibly supplies the tag himself. Then later he starts deleting untagged links. I don't think it's very high up there on "things you can get banned for" unless the links were consistently not WFS.

Or maybe you were just trying to be humorous and I missed it. Sorry.
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Old 11-19-2008, 02:11 AM   #16
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Re: Substitution - Olympic Lifts?

I should have been more explicit in my humor--maybe "call upon the power of the Mighty Banhammer" would have done it.
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Old 11-19-2008, 03:59 AM   #17
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I should have been more explicit in my humor--maybe "call upon the power of the Mighty Banhammer" would have done it.
The mighty Odin approves.

No, wait, that's Thor. Never mind.
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Old 11-19-2008, 04:30 AM   #18
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Re: Substitution - Olympic Lifts?

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Also, I am a bit old-school in that I would be still worried having form critiqued via correspondence for such potentially damaging lifts (no offence meant) ...if I even had a digital camera.
Why would you be worried? just because you feel it wouldn't be very good assistance?

I learned the clean, more or less, totally from Starting Strength and videos online and I certainly feel I'm lifting in a safe fashion. I'm now taking advantage of the Digital Coaching forum, and the aforementioned o-lifting book by Greg Everett, to try to refine my lifts and learn the snatch. I'm still pretty novice but I think I'm doing fairly well. Would you agree with that Derek? Maybe I'm deluded, hehe. Derek has a pretty keen eye and has offered me some constructive criticism in THIS thread (WFS).

Adding on to what others have said: read a lot, start out with PVC, do all the silly drills, progress slowly, listen to your body, and video tape yourself, even if only for your own analysis (easy these days because even your, or your neighbors , cheap digital camera takes video clips).

And again, as others have said, the lack of bumpers is not a death-knell for o-lifting, it just means you won't really be able to go heavy (i.e. you do the 135# clean workouts, but substitute squats or deadlifts for the 1-1-1-1-1-1 clean&jerk type days), which is too bad, but will also reduce the chances of injury you were worried about
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Old 11-19-2008, 04:31 AM   #19
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I'd greatly recommend buying a copy of Starting Strength (wfs) if you are learning the lifts without a coach. That book is the best book by far on the subject. If you can't get bumpers, you could try lifting outside where if you need to bail on a lift you can dump it in the dirt.

Sorry but SS is all about Powerlifting not Olifting. The book on Olifting is Greg Everett's Olympic Weightlifting: A Complete Guide for Athletes & Coaches
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Old 11-19-2008, 06:34 AM   #20
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Re: Substitution - Olympic Lifts?

Mark,

My wife doesn't have much interest in learning O-lifts (yet), so I have her substitute supersets of box jumps and kettlebell swings when cleans are in the prescribed workout. It's not a perfect substitute, but she gets the explosive hip/knee extension while also getting the torso involved during the swings.

Other suggestions - jump squats, jump shrugs, high pulls

Another book recommendation - Explosive Lifting for Sports by Harvey Newton
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