What's the consensus on eating dairy products in moderation?

Matthew Townsend · 07-27-2005, 04:11 AM

I know that dairy is not part of the paleo diet, and so theoretically, I shouldn't be eating it.

But I love cafe lattes, I love tasty cheese every now and then, and low fat yoghurt in the afternoon with berries makes a great snack.

Am I likely to see great results in my WoD performance/body fat ratio, if I bite what I would see as a bitter pill and cut dairy products out completely? Ie. like cutting out sugar?

Paul Symes · 07-27-2005, 05:12 AM

I'm sure I read on one of the paleo sites that you could include dairy if you can tolerate it. I suppose it wouldn't then be a pure paleo diet but it would still be a healthy diet.

Brendan Melville · 07-27-2005, 05:55 AM

I've cut every dairy but cheese and cottage cheese. Milk was a big step, but immediately afterwords I realized I didn't need it so much as I thought...

I wouldn't say it has increased performance, and I don't know if it is the cause for me being lean, but I do feel better. I think, as Paul said, if your body can tolerate it, you can keep it if you'd like.

Troy Archie · 07-27-2005, 06:13 AM

Do whatever works for you. If you can eat dairy at every meal with an increase/no change to your performance, go for it.

I myself don't eat any dairy but that's because I'm lactose intolerant.

Scott Kustes · 07-27-2005, 06:27 AM

As has been said, do what works for you. Is a 1% increase in performance really worth it if you enjoy dairy that much? Most of us here are just regular Joe's, so enjoying some of the things we enjoyed pre-CF is important. That doesn't mean that I eat donuts, cookies, and ice cream religiously (for one, I don't enjoy them after I get done eating them....feel like crap). What it does mean is that I limit my dairy and make sure it's something I really want, like crumbled bleu cheese on my salads. Pick and choose and you can have the best of both worlds.

Matthew Townsend · 07-27-2005, 04:36 PM

That's what I wanted to hear. Thanks everyone.

Zach Nikka · 07-28-2005, 04:28 PM

i like whey.....mmmmmm whey.....thats the only dairy i eat though

Jeremy Jones · 07-29-2005, 04:51 PM

I just get some dairy from cheese and ice creams. Even when my Fiancee and I buy a little half gallon of milk, it usually goes bad before we can drink half.

The only time I drink it is for choco milk after a workout everyonce in a while (ala mr. L).

Rob McBee · 07-29-2005, 10:42 PM

I have lattes too several times a week plus my protein powder is primarily milk protein. I don't seem to have a tolerance problem with dairy but like to keep it as paleo as possible. Don't want to use up all my zone fat blocks on all that saturated dairy fat mostly. Love ice cream though...

John Phipps · 07-30-2005, 11:20 AM

I drink 2% milk and eat low fat yogurt and cheese. I like a protien shake in the morning for breakfast with creatine and L-glutamine. I am not going to stop drinking milk just because it is not on the paleo list.

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07-27-2005, 04:11 AM	#1
Matthew Townsend Member Profile: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne Victoria Posts: 278	I know that dairy is not part of the paleo diet, and so theoretically, I shouldn't be eating it. But I love cafe lattes, I love tasty cheese every now and then, and low fat yoghurt in the afternoon with berries makes a great snack. Am I likely to see great results in my WoD performance/body fat ratio, if I bite what I would see as a bitter pill and cut dairy products out completely? Ie. like cutting out sugar?

07-27-2005, 05:12 AM	#2
Paul Symes Member Profile: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London Croydon Posts: 299	I'm sure I read on one of the paleo sites that you could include dairy if you can tolerate it. I suppose it wouldn't then be a pure paleo diet but it would still be a healthy diet.

07-27-2005, 05:55 AM	#3
Brendan Melville Member Profile: Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Norwalk CT Posts: 454	I've cut every dairy but cheese and cottage cheese. Milk was a big step, but immediately afterwords I realized I didn't need it so much as I thought... I wouldn't say it has increased performance, and I don't know if it is the cause for me being lean, but I do feel better. I think, as Paul said, if your body can tolerate it, you can keep it if you'd like.

07-27-2005, 06:13 AM	#4
Troy Archie Member Profile: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 474	Do whatever works for you. If you can eat dairy at every meal with an increase/no change to your performance, go for it. I myself don't eat any dairy but that's because I'm lactose intolerant.

07-27-2005, 06:27 AM	#5
Scott Kustes Member Profile: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 1,258	As has been said, do what works for you. Is a 1% increase in performance really worth it if you enjoy dairy that much? Most of us here are just regular Joe's, so enjoying some of the things we enjoyed pre-CF is important. That doesn't mean that I eat donuts, cookies, and ice cream religiously (for one, I don't enjoy them after I get done eating them....feel like crap). What it does mean is that I limit my dairy and make sure it's something I really want, like crumbled bleu cheese on my salads. Pick and choose and you can have the best of both worlds.

07-27-2005, 04:36 PM	#6
Matthew Townsend Member Profile: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne Victoria Posts: 278	That's what I wanted to hear. Thanks everyone.

07-28-2005, 04:28 PM	#7
Zach Nikka Departed Profile: Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 84	i like whey.....mmmmmm whey.....thats the only dairy i eat though

07-29-2005, 04:51 PM	#8
Jeremy Jones Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Concord Ca Posts: 1,218	I just get some dairy from cheese and ice creams. Even when my Fiancee and I buy a little half gallon of milk, it usually goes bad before we can drink half. The only time I drink it is for choco milk after a workout everyonce in a while (ala mr. L).

07-29-2005, 10:42 PM	#9
Rob McBee Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Portland OR Posts: 397	I have lattes too several times a week plus my protein powder is primarily milk protein. I don't seem to have a tolerance problem with dairy but like to keep it as paleo as possible. Don't want to use up all my zone fat blocks on all that saturated dairy fat mostly. Love ice cream though...

07-30-2005, 11:20 AM	#10
John Phipps Member Profile: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: St Louis MO Posts: 158	I drink 2% milk and eat low fat yogurt and cheese. I like a protien shake in the morning for breakfast with creatine and L-glutamine. I am not going to stop drinking milk just because it is not on the paleo list.