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Old 02-08-2011, 10:01 AM   #41
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The Europeans have standardized currency and the metric system. We can whine about the cost of switching to metric but the problem is Europe is going to eat our lunch because they're running more efficiently. Plus we're half-metric and half-English system anyway. Like I said, 45 lb. plates on a 20 kilo barbell... The U.S. military seems to be handling metric just fine. They shoot 9mm pistols, 105mm howitzers, and any 18-year old boot with a GRE can tell you how far away 3 clicks is. Pay now and get it over with or pay up later and prolong the pain.
Having standardized their currency is only hurting everyone except Greece, maybe Portugal and maybe Ireland, with the whole hand you hold is the hand that holds you down principle. Europe will only eat our lunch when we subsidize it for them.

As for the military- 9mm bullets? If they would get back to the .45s they'd have more stopping power and kill terrorists easier!

Want the best reason to never convert to metric? That's how the Frenchies do it.

PS in the interest of full disclosure, I have a 20 kilo bar, call it 42.5lbs, my scale does. Or, with my one over sized 45lb plate being about 48, it all evens out anyway.
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Old 02-08-2011, 12:36 PM   #42
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Guess I can't rust ABC anymore. Come to think of it, why did I ever?

Anyway, it WOULD cost money up the wazoo to convert to metric regardless.
Initially, it would cost some money. But over the long term:

You wouldn't have to buy 2 sets of sockets, wrenches, hex keys, ect.

Manufacturers wouldn't have to have 2 lines of bolts, nuts, pipe, sheet metal, and everything else under the sun.

manufacturers wouldn't make mistakes stemming from mis-matched parts and conversion errors that then have expensive fixes.

Our stuff would be more easily compatable with the rest of the world. and vice-versa.

Metric works... really, really well. Standard works ok, but given a choice metric is vastly superior. Using both is just dumb. The rest of the world has already converted.
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Old 02-08-2011, 06:16 PM   #43
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Want the best reason to never convert to metric? That's how the Frenchies do it.
Umm, the story goes that the French did it because you Americans told them it would be a good idea to use this new metric system that the English had invented.
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Old 02-08-2011, 08:15 PM   #44
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Can you point me toward a source of iron metric plates that's the same price (or at least close to the same price) as in lbs?
Muscle Driver has been the cheapest I've found. Occasionally you'll see them used at places like Play It Again Sports, but not often.
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Old 02-08-2011, 08:19 PM   #45
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Umm, the story goes that the French did it because you Americans told them it would be a good idea to use this new metric system that the English had invented.
If that's true that is hilarious.
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:53 PM   #46
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Muscle Driver has been the cheapest I've found. Occasionally you'll see them used at places like Play It Again Sports, but not often.
they were the ONLY place I've found them, but they've only got metal in kg up to 5kg. I need metal plates up to 20-25kg. Haven't seen them anywhere.
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Old 02-09-2011, 02:26 PM   #47
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they were the ONLY place I've found them, but they've only got metal in kg up to 5kg. I need metal plates up to 20-25kg. Haven't seen them anywhere.
Why? Isn't anything more than 2k kind of contradictory to "fractional"?
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I need metal plates up to 20-25kg. Haven't seen them anywhere.
Ivanko.

Don't know why you'd need large metal plates in kilos unless you're hosting a powerlifting competition, but there you go.

The other option is to buy 45 lb. plates and some paint. Most 45 lb. plates don't weigh exactly 45 pounds anyway. Paint the words "20 KG" on them and you're good to go.

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Why? Isn't anything more than 2k kind of contradictory to "fractional"?
Because bumpers are expensive and iron (in lbs anyway) is generally less expensive. I really only need a pair of 25kg bumpers (for cleans) and a pair of 10kg (for snatches) and i'm good... the rest can be in iron. but I can squat and deadlift a lot more than 90kg and would therefore need more large plates. I also might want to set up 2 bars for a metcon, necessitating multiple plates, but again having no reason to spend money on bumpers.

It's probably true that I'd be just as well-off assuming that 45's are 20kg, but I just don't work that way. Things need to match. to that end, I'll have to go with standard weights. oh, well.
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Because bumpers are expensive and iron (in lbs anyway) is generally less expensive.
Ahh, I misunderstood. I thought you were only talking about fractional plates </= 1kg
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