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Old 06-03-2008, 08:53 PM   #1
Seth Utter
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Martial Arts on top of crossfit?

I am going to start doing Muay Thai and BJJ this Friday (first lesson free, yay), finally! But I'm worried about stretching myself too thin. Right now I do crossfit after work at about 5, and I will admit many of the crossfit workouts I cannot finish. The MMA lessons are on MWF at around 8 pm. Should I continue doing crossfit after work and still attempt MMA lessons at night? Or should I maybe do a strength training routine after work and consider the MMA as cardio/conditioning?
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Old 06-04-2008, 01:25 PM   #2
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Re: Martial Arts on top of crossfit?

If you cannot finish a WOD, don't pair it on the same day as Martial Arts. Down the line when you become better at everything, then test yourself on doing both. Do CF on your non MA days.
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Old 06-05-2008, 08:53 AM   #3
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Re: Martial Arts on top of crossfit?

Why not? I do CF and BJJ on the same days and don't mind at all if I'm knackered toward the end of rolling.
A) it's good to learn how to fight tired
B) I can't rely on my muscles so much as technique
C) it's just making me fitter.

The downside is in the morning I have NO DESIRE to get out of bed.

Apart from that, listen to your body and go for it.

Edit: Knackered is UK talk for tired.
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:10 AM   #4
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Re: Martial Arts on top of crossfit?

Considering he is just starting to learn.... not a good idea to trying to learn new things when youre knackered.

Definitily do both later on, when i were teaching ju-jitsu and one of my new guys came to practice tired each time.. i would have had him sent off...
He's just a walking disaster waiting to happen.

after a few months into it it would be appreciated from my side that he did conditioning on the side, but not in the beginning... focus on technique...
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:13 AM   #5
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Re: Martial Arts on top of crossfit?

So if I do it on my off days, how should I proceed with it? Since it's MWF (or MWTh, haven't decided yet), that obviously will make rest days very interesting.

So should I a) keep the crossfit workouts in order (i.e. do Mondays WoD on Tues, then Tues on Thurs, etc), or b) just do the WoD on my non-MMA days, which may mean that some weeks I don't get a true 'rest' day.

Also, is there any downside to doing both Muay Thai and BJJ on the same day. The classes are back to back so I was thinking I would just do MT then go straight to BJJ, or vice versa.
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:51 AM   #6
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Re: Martial Arts on top of crossfit?

Depends on youre fitness level, how much youre body is used to stress.
And if you want the whole weekend off or not.

If you can handle it, do CF in between the MMA days, other wise go with something like 3/1/2/1 schedule.
so off days could be sat/sun or thursday/sunday.
Depends on what you can do.
And on the WODs i have seen some MMA inspired workouts that is really nice.

What you should do is to get a feel for the MA training first, then think about supplemental training.
Depends on how rough the trainers are.
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Old 06-06-2008, 03:41 PM   #7
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Re: Martial Arts on top of crossfit?

Saffron Walden?!?!?! Youre joking!

**********. I used to date a girl from there. As a yorkshire man, that is one VERY essex place! I once saw a guy in a pub there wearing three polo shirts!
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Old 06-09-2008, 12:26 PM   #8
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Re: Martial Arts on top of crossfit?

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Saffron Walden?!?!?! Youre joking!

**********. I used to date a girl from there. As a yorkshire man, that is one VERY essex place! I once saw a guy in a pub there wearing three polo shirts!
Haha, not a native saffron citizen though.
Just been here a year and moving back home this week

But yes its a VERY essex place.
Don't think ive seen that guy :P
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Old 06-09-2008, 12:41 PM   #9
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Re: Martial Arts on top of crossfit?

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So if I do it on my off days, how should I proceed with it? Since it's MWF (or MWTh, haven't decided yet), that obviously will make rest days very interesting.

So should I a) keep the crossfit workouts in order (i.e. do Mondays WoD on Tues, then Tues on Thurs, etc), or b) just do the WoD on my non-MMA days, which may mean that some weeks I don't get a true 'rest' day.

Also, is there any downside to doing both Muay Thai and BJJ on the same day. The classes are back to back so I was thinking I would just do MT then go straight to BJJ, or vice versa.
Assuming you are going to be training MMA on Monday, Wednesday and Friday and never missing a workout, if it was me I would limit the CF to one metcon per week and focus on Olympic lifts and heavy powerlifts.

So, my schedule would look something like this:

Monday: MMA
Tuesday: Snatch, deadlift, weighted ring dips
Wednesday: MMA
Thursday: Clean and jerk, back squat, weighted pull-ups
Friday: MMA
Saturday: Metcon (something on the shorter/heavier end)
Sunday: Rest

This is just a quick idea of what I would play around with, since doing back-to-back metcons on top of MMA training would probably do you more harm than good. Assuming, of course, that the MMA training is relatively intense. And of course, listen to your body. If it's begging for a day off, give it a day off.
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:18 PM   #10
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Re: Martial Arts on top of crossfit?

You have many inputs already, but I would say alternate for a while. My reason is not for fitness sakes, but for soreness. Your first couple of weeks of training will make you sore as hell!! You can adjust fire after you get use to it.
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