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Old 05-11-2011, 06:17 AM   #1
Vince Mannella
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Drop sets vs sets across

What is everyone's opinion on drop sets vs sets across?
I currently do my strength component as sets across (5reps x 3sets).
For example I squat 240# for 5x3.

Would I see gains if I did lets say:
Squat 260# 6R, 225# 8R, 185# 10R

I increase my weight by 5# every two weeks right now.
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Old 05-11-2011, 06:42 AM   #2
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Re: Drop sets vs sets across

"everything works.....nothing works forever"

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Old 05-11-2011, 06:46 AM   #3
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Re: Drop sets vs sets across

You know, all these questions of "this method vs. that method" are very incidental and situational. Without any proper context, these questions mean little. What is your overall goal?

Drop sets, meaning training to failure and then dropping weight, are an excellent way to add muscle mass. The rep scheme you describe may work better as another one that I used to do:
12-10-8-6-4, where each time you add weight.

If you were to pile on the weight until you could only do 6 reps, then reduce until you could only do 8, so on and so on, then you would most definitely see gains. What you have described does not sound like it would provoke the response in the muscle needed to make serious strength gains, if that is your goal.

Just my opinion, however.

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Old 05-11-2011, 08:58 AM   #4
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Re: Drop sets vs sets across

So you like to drop weight and reps?

Do you find this to be more beneficial than keeping the same weight while dropping reps? Or adding weight as you drop reps?
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:17 PM   #5
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Re: Drop sets vs sets across

Sets across are going to be more beneficial for someone who is still constantly making linear gains. Once you have stalled out a couple times, its time to start including other stuff like drop sets to mix the routine up. This will help you eek out some additional linear gains. Once you start stalling out again, then its time for periodization.
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:38 PM   #6
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Re: Drop sets vs sets across

When I hit the end of LP on my low bar squats, I switched to high bar since I'm an Oly lifter. I'm now running LP with high bar (which I could do because my high bar was so horrendous compared to my low bar). I'm experimenting with 5-5-5+. Last week, I went 5-5-7. I added 5 lbs this week, and today, I went 5-5-10.

I actually like this mentally. I've experimented with ladders for front squats, and those helped my mind game. But, I thought nothing could be worse than squatting 5s (other than a 20 rep program, which I don't know that I will EVER do). 5-5-5+ is making sets of across for 5s seem like cake.
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Old 05-11-2011, 07:20 PM   #7
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Re: Drop sets vs sets across

I'm a big fan of the 5-5-5+ approach too. A few weeks of that and I'm already lifting more weight and for more reps on my 5+ sets on squat, press, bench, and deadlift. Seems to be much quicker gains than the standard 3x5 approach and I haven't been feeling beat down by it at all.
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:16 AM   #8
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Re: Drop sets vs sets across

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When I hit the end of LP on my low bar squats, I switched to high bar since I'm an Oly lifter. I'm now running LP with high bar (which I could do because my high bar was so horrendous compared to my low bar). I'm experimenting with 5-5-5+. Last week, I went 5-5-7. I added 5 lbs this week, and today, I went 5-5-10.

I actually like this mentally. I've experimented with ladders for front squats, and those helped my mind game. But, I thought nothing could be worse than squatting 5s (other than a 20 rep program, which I don't know that I will EVER do). 5-5-5+ is making sets of across for 5s seem like cake.
I've never tried the 5-5-5+, but will approach it after this round of RSR!!
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