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Old 05-19-2006, 07:48 AM   #1
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New Dan John article at T-Nation.

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do;jsessionid=7D52A545DAB4DB86EE775B178681717A.hydra ?id=1064736
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Old 05-19-2006, 10:18 AM   #2
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thanks great article!
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Old 05-19-2006, 10:31 AM   #3
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That article makes a good point, especially for those involved in sport or who have a really noticeable deficiency in their fitness that they wish to address.

I also disagree with the "every day" idea of it. CrossFit has shown me that I can get "better" at seemingly totally unrelated things by strengthening the whole organism in various ways. I don't need to do pullups every single day in order to get stronger/better at them, and most CFers judge that pullups are really important.

So, I both agree and disagree with it. Here's how this plays out for me (and I'd guess other CFers):

Stay varied (random) and intense when not prepping for an event. When an event comes up, start doing the "important" things every day or every other day (like the OL lifts and their ancillaries). This approach will fend off many of the typical overuse injuries (assuming someone isn't always prepping for an event).
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Old 05-20-2006, 12:51 PM   #4
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Seems to me that the article is mostly supporting the importance of doing the CFWU everyday. I've come to see my 500-1500m on a C2 as my warmup, the CFWU as my workout, and the WOD as the (very important) cherry on top.

Sound about right?
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Old 05-21-2006, 08:02 AM   #5
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It all depends on your level, I guess. If you just want to show up at an O lift meet and total or a track meet and be the guy who runs from event to event, you don't need to do something daily. I would think...without hyperbole...that I have thrown the discus with a full turn 100,000 times (and that is a low end estimate). ((I once tried throwing 1000 times in few days just to break through))

To excel at one thing, you have to do it every day and a lot of times. So, if anything, in the article, I underemphasis this point.

Again, it's like the example I gave a few posts back: if you compete against me in the discus, I will do everything I can to throw farther than you. If I do, the correct answer is not "I can do more pullups than you, though, Danny!" So, I like to use this analogy with my athletes: you have one foot in one canoe as an athlete and one foot in another. (General training and Specific Training). Optimally, both feet are going down the stream in the same direction and the same speed. Most of us end up in the stream.
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Old 05-21-2006, 12:22 PM   #6
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Thanks for the post, Dan!
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Old 05-21-2006, 12:57 PM   #7
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Sporting greatness requires specialization.

I haven't found any way around this.

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Old 05-24-2006, 09:47 PM   #8
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I've just read the article and i really liked it.

Now, what would be interesting is for some of the experts in various sports to give us their three essentials for that sport so we can practice them every day.

I'm taking my O lifting pretty seriously now and as close as i can figure the things I should be working on and the exercises i need to do are.

1. Pulling power - clean and snatch pulls

2. Leg strength - Front squats

3. Getting under the bar - Jerks and snatch balance

What does everyone think?
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Old 05-25-2006, 06:45 AM   #9
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Be careful that #1 doesn't compromise #3.
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Old 05-25-2006, 06:51 AM   #10
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Can you elaborate on that Lincoln?
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