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Old 06-14-2011, 07:16 PM   #1
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More Snatch PR's - 225 lbs

Snatches (wfs)

Great day today, previous best was 215 lbs.

Been trying to stay back on my heels as the bar passes the knee and its been working great.
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:33 PM   #2
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awesome job on the PRs!
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:47 PM   #3
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Re: More Snatch PR's - 225 lbs

Jay,
bar path is looking better. You could still be a little bit more patient getting the bar up into the hips more. The biggest thing to work on right now would be to keep the hips from rising first on your overhead squat. That is what is causing you to chase the bar coming out of the recieving position. Keep your chest up, push the knees out, and bring your hips forward coming out of the squat. Keep it up.
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Old 06-15-2011, 04:49 AM   #4
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bar path is looking better. You could still be a little bit more patient getting the bar up into the hips more. The biggest thing to work on right now would be to keep the hips from rising first on your overhead squat. That is what is causing you to chase the bar coming out of the recieving position. Keep your chest up, push the knees out, and bring your hips forward coming out of the squat. Keep it up.
Thanks for the feedback.
I have to work on that on all my squats, back squat, front squat too. They are posterior dominant. Any ideas on how to improve that??
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Re: More Snatch PR's - 225 lbs

You need to wait over the bar longer and finish with the hips through more and faster.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:29 PM   #6
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For the squats (back, overhead, front) work on keeping the torso upright and keeping the hips under the shoulders as much as when you come up out of the squat. You have to make new habits in your squats. Just going to take time and effort when doing it.
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Old 06-19-2011, 05:01 PM   #7
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Re: More Snatch PR's - 225 lbs

Strong work. Try thinking about hitting yourself in the belt buckle with the bar. The bar should crease your abdomen before it goes overhead. As is now, it goes directly from your thighs to overhead, and finishes a little in front. This is also why you have to run forward at max weights.

Fix that and you'll stick the landing and probably go up 5-10kg.
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Old 08-09-2011, 09:10 AM   #8
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For the squats (back, overhead, front) work on keeping the torso upright and keeping the hips under the shoulders as much as when you come up out of the squat. You have to make new habits in your squats. Just going to take time and effort when doing it.
I don't understand...don't we WANT the backsquat to posterior-chain dominant??
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Old 08-09-2011, 06:20 PM   #9
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Adam,

this took me a while to differentiate as well. The oly squat will require an upright torso (hips under the shoulders in the bottom of the squat). The Low bar back squat (LBBS) is more common in Powerlifting.

You have to remember the differences between the two sports. In Olympic Weightlifting, the competition consists of the snatch and clean & jerk. The squat is used as an assistance exercise. It is only as useful as you make it. If you LBBS and have trouble squatting heavy cleans or snatches because you are weak in the upright position with your butt on your calves, then you need to work on your weakness.

In Powerlifting, the competition lifts are the squat, deadlift and bench. The LBBS takes advantage of the body's levers and what should maximize your squatting abilities, the posterior chain. The bar is on your back, so you don't have to worry about losing the bar in front of you when your torso tilts forward. I believe Rip even said that the LBBS was an assistance exercise in the pull phase of the Oly lifts, not necessarily the squat.

Everybody is a little different and body type does come into play. But the majority of top level oly lifters, if you look at them in the recieving position of the clean will have an upright torso. It is typically the most advantageous position to squat the bar up without dumping it front of you. There are those that are successful doing it other ways, you have to find what works best for you.
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Re: More Snatch PR's - 225 lbs

man your videos are always awesome. sweet lift.
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