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Old 02-28-2003, 12:33 PM   #1
Daniel Ramos
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Ok I'm ready to do my fourth crossfit workout but I just noticed that I dont own running shoes. My athletic interest just dont require them (weighlifting and MA). Any budget concious sugestions??????

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Old 03-30-2003, 01:32 PM   #2
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Daniel,

I just had this conversation with Coach. For 800m type stuff, dedicated running shoes are not really necessary. I found them comfortable in the run, but extremely squishy (is this a word?) and unstable for the lifts that often follow the runs. Even worse, many have a very high heel that puts you on the balls of your feet--just where you don't want to be--when squatting, etc. A good cross trainer or court shoe would probably be a better bet all around. I compromised by getting a very flat and stable trail running shoe, and often taking it off to lift barefoot since I perform barefoot in my other sports (BJJ/MMA) anyway.

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Old 03-30-2003, 07:37 PM   #3
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barefoot and on soft terrain...I have an incredible article somewhere about the health of the lower extremities of those who train with shoes adn those with out (the kenyans ran w/o shoes untill pretty recently) it is pretty interesting.
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Old 03-31-2003, 07:36 AM   #4
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I just read an article on the web concerning this issue. Although the website focused on running, it would seem that many of the principles could be applied universally. In sum:

1. Many injuries are actually caused by footwear.
2. Very few, if any, shoes are designed to conform well to the human foot (ever notice how many shows narrow at the toes towards a point, whereas the actual foot broadens as you approach the toe area?).
3. Running without shoes, at least for part of your training, will reduce injuries and work more muscles in your feet. Apparently a lot of professional and collegiate runners do this.
4. Because a shoe dissipates shock, it is harder to tell if you are running with proper form. Try landing hard on your heels while running barefoot.
5. Even barefoot runners who are successful are offered, and often accept, endorsements from shoe companies, not necessarily because they want to wear the shoes, but when there's a sufficient amount of money involved . . . .

For those of you who find this interesting, you can find the whole article at:
http://www.runningbarefoot.org/Why.html

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Old 03-31-2003, 01:14 PM   #5
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Great article. I like going barefoot. Though taking this outside to the stairs and streets will be a leap for me.

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Old 03-31-2003, 07:19 PM   #6
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Ryan-
thanks for tracking that down...it is goiing in my bookmarks for sure this time!
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Old 03-31-2003, 07:47 PM   #7
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What do you guys think of Aqua Sox? Running barefoot sounds great, except for the broken glass, sharp rocks and whatnot. I hear some of those aqua sox have kevlar soles so that they don't get cut up on the reefs.
Let me know, I'm curious. In fact, I'm going to start running sprints every day after gymnastics class, now that the weather is getting good. Nothing takes the fat off me like sprinting and kettlebells.
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Old 03-31-2003, 10:19 PM   #8
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Tyler- I tend to run in my tevas if I am on dicey terrain but mainly I restrict my running to areas i am pretty confident are safe. I think the aqua sox are a great idea alternate sox and barefeet. Build up some callouse (practice some capoeira!) and the minor shrapnel will not be too great a problem.
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Old 04-13-2003, 08:07 PM   #9
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Ryan, above, you say:

4. Because a shoe dissipates shock, it is harder to tell if you are running with proper form. Try landing hard on your heels while running barefoot.

What is proper form, then? I've heard different descriptions from high school coaches, MA, random people. Presumably, you should land on the balls of your feel, let contact come down the outside edge til your heel touches down briefly, then push off your toes?
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Janet,

That sounds correct. According to my sources (primarily Ken Saxton, runningbarefoot.org), you want to avoid landing on the heel and run ball-heel-ball. They emphasize that a runner will get more benefit from trying to push their body forward as each leg comes in contact with the ground rather than trying to pull with the heel. For an excellent article on running form go to:

http//wwwrunningbarefootorg/HowBarefootOrOtherwise.html

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