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Old 01-31-2008, 04:13 PM   #1
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James Fitzgerald (OPT) - WOD 1-31-08 Video

James Fitzgerald (OPT) doing today's WOD at Catalyst Athletics / Mike's Gym. This is right after spending an hour and a half snatching. As RXed - 9:41.

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Old 01-31-2008, 04:35 PM   #2
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Re: James Fitzgerald (OPT) - WOD 1-31-08 Video

Okay, I think OPT is a great athlete, BUT A LINE MUST BE DRAWN.

The HSPU's were little more than twitches due to hand placement. HSPU's are approximately shoulder width! The difference in work done each rep is immense compared to wide versus regular grip pull-ups and I think this should be specified in the FAQ.


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You can do partial reps, building up to full range of motion. For example, stack a few books up under your head; lower to the books. Work on removing a book from the pile every workout or so until you are going head to the floor.
I know this does not exactly state hand positioning, but if you put books under your head with that wide a hand placement, you would not have any more room to do push-ups.

http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/HSPUx11.mov wfs
This is the official HSPU video. Proper hand placement for an exercise that, in its unassisted form (balance assists are still assists), is done freestanding.

http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/C...Variations.wmv wfs
Here too, (flared elbows aren't good but hand position is correct).

http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/s...-handstand.wmv wfs
And here.

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Old 01-31-2008, 07:33 PM   #3
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Re: James Fitzgerald (OPT) - WOD 1-31-08 Video

I agree. A case might be made against the pullup grip width as well.
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:27 PM   #4
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Re: James Fitzgerald (OPT) - WOD 1-31-08 Video

And what's the thought on bouncing deads?

If only for a split second, I always come to a stop and restart the movement.
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:30 PM   #5
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Re: James Fitzgerald (OPT) - WOD 1-31-08 Video

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And what's the thought on bouncing deads?

If only for a split second, I always come to a stop and restart the movement.
It's like bouncing pullups at the bottom.

If you want to sure. The other is more metcon while yours is more strength.
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Old 01-31-2008, 09:00 PM   #6
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Re: James Fitzgerald (OPT) - WOD 1-31-08 Video

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I agree...

But what does it matter? It's not our WOD. It's OPT's.
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Re: James Fitzgerald (OPT) - WOD 1-31-08 Video

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It's like bouncing pullups at the bottom.

If you want to sure. The other is more metcon while yours is more strength.
I didn't go back and double check OPT's deadlifts, so I'm not going to comment on what he did or didn't do.

But in my opinion, bouncing a deadlift is much more different than "bouncing pull-ups." Although I'm not sure exactly what part is "bouncing" in a kipping pull-up. In a bouncing deadlift, you are using the elastic nature of the bumper plates to assist your next lift. In a bouncing pull-up, your own muscle provide the elastic bounce, nothing else.

One could take my logic, however, and apply it to a bar with "give" in it, such as the un-even bars in gymnastics. One could use the elastic nature of the bar to assist in the next pull-up.

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Re: James Fitzgerald (OPT) - WOD 1-31-08 Video

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But what does it matter? It's not our WOD. It's OPT's.
I assume people are having issues with the As RXed - 9:41 part. It's not quite 100% as RX'ed due to the form discussion, so his workout is not quite like what others are doing. My workouts wouldn't stand up to critique either, of course
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Re: James Fitzgerald (OPT) - WOD 1-31-08 Video

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I agree. A case might be made against the pullup grip width as well.
Well, not so much on the pull-up grip. There's much more ROM in the pull-up than in the HSPU, so wide grip doesn't take out too huge a chunk of the ROM. The HSPU has less ROM unless you use paralletes, so the reduction is much more dramatic percentage-wise.
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Re: James Fitzgerald (OPT) - WOD 1-31-08 Video

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I assume people are having issues with the As RXed - 9:41 part. It's not quite 100% as RX'ed due to the form discussion, so his workout is not quite like what others are doing. My workouts wouldn't stand up to critique either, of course
Yes, it's the Rx'd sign that I have trouble with, as well any athletic benefits someone may be missing doing HSPU's like that. It's bad form and especially when done by someone like OPT, can convince people that it is a good way to do them, if not necessary for a good time on the WOD. Wide armed also isn't going to help you get freestanding.

Edit: As for bouncing deads - I hadn't thought of the bumper plates. You would have to either go slower (not much of an option in OPT's case) or use metal plates.

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