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Old 10-11-2013, 05:50 AM   #1
Martin Navestad
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How much should I train? Is this overtraining?

Hi, so I am sitting here wondering how im going to do my training..

So I have come up with this

Monday: Strength, WOD
Tuesday: WODS, AMRAP ( longer wods)
Wednesday: Strength, Endurance ( running, rowing, biking)
Thursday: off (work)
Friday: Strength, WOD
Saturday: Strength, Endurance
Sunday: work or rest day

Strenth program im going to do is sheiko CMS-MS Prep


Is this just to much or will it work?
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Old 10-11-2013, 06:06 AM   #2
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Re: How much should I train? Is this overtraining?

Are you trying to get stronger or fitter or both. I suggest just doing 3 or 4 days of strength a week until you get strong and then incorporate both fitness and strength. Doing strength and woods people usually just maintain that same strength
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Old 10-11-2013, 06:56 AM   #3
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Re: How much should I train? Is this overtraining?

What are your goals in numbers and times?
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:08 PM   #4
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What are your goals in numbers and times?
My goal is to be stronger and in general get fitter.. Have been training strength in about 3years and have been doing crossfit for almost a year..
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:59 PM   #5
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Re: How much should I train? Is this overtraining?

why do you feel the need or desire to attempt and create your own special program? there are many good and proven programs out there to accomplish your goal. why not just pick one and do it? and no, the program you have listed does not look good.
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Old 10-11-2013, 05:27 PM   #6
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Re: How much should I train? Is this overtraining?

Yep, that program is pretty stupid putting it bluntly.
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:37 PM   #7
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Re: How much should I train? Is this overtraining?

Here are two links to programming, one from Coach Glassman and one from a "competitors" site. Second link opens automatically to a PDF file of a 2003 Journal publication.

Lots of information out there, just search Crossfit programming:

http://competitorswod.blogspot.com/p...hilosophy.html

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...53899372,d.dmg
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:40 PM   #8
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Re: How much should I train? Is this overtraining?

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Yep, that program is pretty stupid putting it bluntly.
Probably using Sheiko with all the above can be close to "stupid."
But if he was doing some limited strength work, would anything else bother you about the program?
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Old 10-12-2013, 08:37 AM   #9
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Re: How much should I train? Is this overtraining?

I don't think anyone has enough info from you to make an accurate assessment.

What do your actual workouts look like?

What are the other stressors in your life that contribute to fatigue (for example, do you work out only and spend the rest of your time recovering such as a committed pro athlete, or do you work full time and have family obligations as well)?

How do you feel (any signs of overtraining) and are you in fact making gains with your program or instead are you stagnant?

I coud use the general pattern you describe and come up with workouts which fit them and which are not that difficult for an experienced CrossFitter, but could also design workouts that would be way too much for most people. The real answer is in the details here which are needed to give an accurate answer.

P.S. Remember that a warm-up for a CrossFit Games qualifier may be overtraining for others. How you feel and whether you are in fact making gains is really important.
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Old 10-12-2013, 01:13 PM   #10
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Re: How much should I train? Is this overtraining?

Unless I am mistaken, Sheiko is a pretty high volume strength program. I'd be very worried with your format unless you decrease the programmed load of both your Crossfit and Sheiko.

Following a strict Sheiko and adding mainpage WODing in this structure looks like way too much volume to me:

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Monday: Strength, WOD
Tuesday: WODS, AMRAP ( longer wods)
Wednesday: Strength, Endurance ( running, rowing, biking)
Thursday: off (work)
Friday: Strength, WOD
Saturday: Strength, Endurance
Sunday: work or rest day
So the way you have described it, we're prone to think you're talking about strict Sheiko and standard Crossfit, which is going to be way too much volume to be successful.
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