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Old 05-25-2012, 02:58 PM   #1
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Fasted Training (Pros/Cons)

Hey all,
Ive been training fasted (with 10g BCAA intra WO) for about 8 Months. Reccently I've been losing my appetite and i was told fasted training may be the cause. Ive also seen many sources say recently that its great for weight training but awful for crossfit. What are your thought on this?
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Old 05-25-2012, 03:36 PM   #2
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Re: Fasted Training (Pros/Cons)

I'm curious about this too. I train fasted just because i work out at 7am and its hard to get food beforehand. I never feel depleted because of it though, but that not to say i wouldn't perform better with food. I may start training around 10am eventually though and that'd be with a breakfast earlier in the morning so ill see how that goes.
I do notice that i rarely have a big appetite though so it may have something to do with it?

Id like to hear some other inputs on it too though
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Old 05-26-2012, 12:13 AM   #3
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Re: Fasted Training (Pros/Cons)

Read this here (I haven't paid enough attention to know if it is WFS. Probably some language in the writing). It may not be exactly what you are looking for but it is some input. I greatly respect Welbourn and if he has some words for fasting in any sense while training with weights, I'm going to pay attention.
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Old 05-26-2012, 10:22 AM   #4
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Re: Fasted Training (Pros/Cons)

Get up earlier and eat something.Invictus article (WFS) on training on an empty stomach. I can definitely feel my performance decline when I don't get some protein/carbs before I workout.
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Old 05-26-2012, 10:41 AM   #5
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Re: Fasted Training (Pros/Cons)

CF metcons in a fasted state...hmm I don't know. Maybe if you're in a caloric surplus, but I wouldn't do it on a caloric deficit.

Strength training in a fasted state is alright for some people, it sucks for some. I don't notice any difference. Add CF metcons to the equation...I don't know what'll happen.
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Old 05-26-2012, 11:18 AM   #6
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Re: Fasted Training (Pros/Cons)

Training fasted is great for leaning out, but it's not so great for performance. It just depends on what your goals are. Most programs that involve fasted training, Lean Gains for example, recommend against high intensity training while using their program. Also, I'm not aware of any programs that recommend fasted training as an ongoing regimen, just for short term cutting.
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:46 PM   #7
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Re: Fasted Training (Pros/Cons)

I would think fasted training would force your body to burn muscle for fuel as well as fat. Goes against everything I've ever heard of. I may not be on the cutting edge though. Either way , I can't possibly see a benefit to it.

As far as fasted cardio, that has even been debunked as being more effective than fed cardio. Bioscience .
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:24 AM   #8
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I would think fasted training would force your body to burn muscle for fuel as well as fat. Goes against everything I've ever heard of. I may not be on the cutting edge though. Either way , I can't possibly see a benefit to it.

As far as fasted cardio, that has even been debunked as being more effective than fed cardio. Bioscience .
It takes quite a beating to burn muscle.

There's benefits to fasted training, strength training and such. But metcons? I don't think it's the way to go. It depends on the person as well
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Old 05-29-2012, 01:45 PM   #9
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Re: Fasted Training (Pros/Cons)

IMO, it's up to personal experience/practice. I've been doing morning workouts for a very long time, and thus they're always fasted. Never noticed any issues when compared to the occasional afternoon workout.

So for performance, I'd argue it's a very small effect. As for how you feel - some ppl feel worse if they eat/don't eat before a workout. Do what makes you feel better.

Even when doing team sports w/morning practice - those who knew they needed a bite of something to feel better would eat a powerbar or similar in the lockerroom while changing, by the time warmup was done (30min) they were ready to go at 100%. The rest of us just woke up and did fine in a fasted state.

For leaning out, there's good evidence that true fasting state (18-24hrs) can be beneficial, but just going from dinner to a morning workout is nothing special in my book.

If you're worried about performance, I'd be more concerned about what you eat post-workout for recovery - make sure you're getting enough carbs.
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