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Old 07-03-2008, 06:02 AM   #1
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Hypertrophy via: morbid obesity

Thought this might be of interest. http://powerandbulk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34599 mostly wfs
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Old 07-05-2008, 04:01 PM   #2
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Re: Hypertrophy via: morbid obesity

One of the particularly interesting assertions there, by the way, is that nobody -- nobody -- gets especially over 220lb of lean mass without drugs.
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Old 07-06-2008, 09:26 PM   #3
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Re: Hypertrophy via: morbid obesity

personally that sounds about right. years ago when young, stupid and bodybuilding I got myself up to about 265lb on a bulking cycle. This happened 2 or 3 times but when ever I started to cut I could never get lean at over 100kg (225lb) whatever I did. I never took drugs at all and yet I trained with guys who seemed to get leaner at much higher BW than me.
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Old 07-07-2008, 07:27 AM   #4
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Re: Hypertrophy via: morbid obesity

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One of the particularly interesting assertions there, by the way, is that nobody -- nobody -- gets especially over 220lb of lean mass without drugs.
Sad but true in most cases....unless you are over 6'5" or have the genetics of Hercules.
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Old 07-07-2008, 07:53 AM   #5
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Re: Hypertrophy via: morbid obesity

hahahaha!!! Guess I am an exception. I would have to cut off limbs to get to 220. At 275 I wear 36 jeans and I can fit my fist inside the band. Though that might be different now as I've been in 42s for awhile from desk jockeying too long and working out too little. From the recent strength changes in the past 6 months, at 275 I might actually be even thinner in the waist. I've never taken anything other than multi-vitamins, fish oil and food(lots of food mmmm food). I have been doing compound lifts since I was about 12. Then again I am also about 75%Scott-Irish\25% Greek. Plus I am almost literally a knuckle dragger, as I can almost touch my knees standing straight up. I guess I could be a missing link gorilla. haha!

Further since Ive added in more metcon work ala CrossFit plus other more effective power and strength training via Coach Rip and Louie Simmons I have never been stronger. At 525DL(need to ME again), 425(SE 16" box), 465SQ, 275OP(need to ME again soon), and everything climbing and recovery ala paleo\IF is down to nill, and IF seems to have the most leaning effect of anything I have ever tried. God save CrossFit, the proper athletic squat and the dynamic effort box squat!

Jeez, my goal is 250#s, 600DL 600SQ 600BP 315OP and as many dead hangs as I feel like doing at any particular time. The human body can do anything we tell it to do. Stop believing other people and start working to get where you want to be.

Works pays off. Do the work. Though Rip says it much more eloquently than I.

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Old 07-07-2008, 10:01 AM   #6
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The human body can do anything we tell it to do. Stop believing other people and start working to get where you want to be.

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And as always, thought determines reality so as You think, shall You be.
This is a wonderful and very useful attitude. But at the moment I'm looking at objective reality, which is not, outside of Harry Potter, created by willpower.
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Old 07-07-2008, 12:35 PM   #7
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Simply executing the willpower to not give up or give in is determining outcome via thought. Anywho, to each their own. I'll keep programming for success and executing based on it and see how it works out. I'll let ya know in 50 years .
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Old 07-16-2008, 11:43 AM   #8
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Re: Hypertrophy via: morbid obesity

More details on this concept:

http://www.weightrainer.net/potential.html

Calculating your own max:

http://www.weightrainer.net/bodypred.html

Both wfs aside from some partially-clothed men.
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Old 07-16-2008, 12:44 PM   #9
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Re: Hypertrophy via: morbid obesity

Thanks, Brandon, that's an interesting calculator.
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