Metobolic diet - Page 7

Frank M Needham · 09-21-2006, 08:23 PM

This is interesting stuff for sure. Anyone know where to read up on the history, data aquisition, and supporting studies that MD is derived from (other than the author of the referenced material)? Before attempting something like this, and I'm interested enough to do so, I'd like to see lots more info.

Is that a grass fed cow you're eating there Rob? Just checking, looks like a pen raised critter to me?

Kathryn Steen · 09-22-2006, 03:20 AM

great thread guys! i've cut down to about 30 g carbs for the past 2 days and, much to my suprise, really feel great. no energy dips, even after a stressful call at work and was still able to kick out the 50 c&j wod. i am still a little hungry, so i don't think i quite have my fat levels up to where they need to be. planning one more day of about 30 g and then a carb up day. will be curious to see how it works out.

Scott Kustes · 09-22-2006, 10:12 AM

Frank, I believe the filename of Robb's picture was "mad cow" or something like that.

Robert Wolf · 09-22-2006, 01:48 PM

Frank-

Mauro Dipasquale and Charles Poliquin have worked with a boat load of olympic and world champions. Similar to Barrys Sears experience in many ways and that is a pretty good endorsement for me. He has a "Science" section on the site. Give that a Looksy.

Related ot the cow y'all might find this amusing:
http://www.chicoer.com/features/ci_4327731

•••• Hippies!

Dwayne Holloway · 09-22-2006, 02:07 PM

Robb,
I had a mouthful of TJ greentea when I saw the cow after Kevin asked you what a day looked like for your meals. It came out my nose. Great one! And Jesse, very quick Sir, I love that!

Dwayne

Jesse Woody · 09-22-2006, 02:17 PM

OK, I'm at the end of day 6 at the uber-low carb level. So far I've done great, with a couple of exceptions:

1. I got sick last week, super-stuffy nose, cough, sneezing etc. I'm not sure if it was some part of the metabolic shift that Di Pasquale talks about, or if my kids just brought something home.

2. I did the smart thing with my sickness and trained like an absolute beast. Pulled 355 on a deadlift with little warm-up (just ramp-up sets from 275) then immediately did 100 pull-ups in 6:54. Sore and sick the next day, I decided it would be a great time to do some Bulgarian-esque O-lift training. I followed that in the evening with some Gymnastics strength skills, then the next day, despite some horrible soreness, I did the 50 C&J workout. Now, surprising enough, I have a severely pulled left bicep tendon...ever heard of under-recovery?

Unfortunately, I've felt so good so far with the reduced carbs that I took it a bit far...I have so much extra energy that I feel I should be working out 5 times a day...perhaps that would work if I didn't do 5 workouts at 110%

I'm also going to tweak my fat composition, up my fish oil, cut back a bit on the saturated fats and start chugging the olive oil to see if I can get rid of some nagging inflammation. The dairy protein is also going to have to go. Rob, do you see anything else off-hand that could help with this that I haven't covered?

Kevin McKay · 09-22-2006, 02:22 PM

How much lean meat is there on a hippie?

Kevin McKay · 09-22-2006, 02:59 PM

Hey Rob,

What is your take on fruit intake and fructose? How many pieces of fruit per day are too much?

Thanks

Frank M Needham · 09-22-2006, 03:01 PM

Thanks Rob, I'll check that out closely.

Anyone know what "PETA" really stands for....?

"People for Eating Tasty Animals"

Scott Kustes · 09-23-2006, 06:27 AM

So how did the discussion turn out Robb?

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09-21-2006, 08:23 PM	#61
Frank M Needham Member Profile: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 452	This is interesting stuff for sure. Anyone know where to read up on the history, data aquisition, and supporting studies that MD is derived from (other than the author of the referenced material)? Before attempting something like this, and I'm interested enough to do so, I'd like to see lots more info. Is that a grass fed cow you're eating there Rob? Just checking, looks like a pen raised critter to me?

09-22-2006, 03:20 AM	#62
Kathryn Steen Member Profile: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Frankford DE Posts: 156	great thread guys! i've cut down to about 30 g carbs for the past 2 days and, much to my suprise, really feel great. no energy dips, even after a stressful call at work and was still able to kick out the 50 c&j wod. i am still a little hungry, so i don't think i quite have my fat levels up to where they need to be. planning one more day of about 30 g and then a carb up day. will be curious to see how it works out.

09-22-2006, 10:12 AM	#63
Scott Kustes Member Profile: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 1,258	Frank, I believe the filename of Robb's picture was "mad cow" or something like that.

09-22-2006, 01:48 PM	#64
Robert Wolf Member Profile: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chico CA Posts: 2,669	Frank- Mauro Dipasquale and Charles Poliquin have worked with a boat load of olympic and world champions. Similar to Barrys Sears experience in many ways and that is a pretty good endorsement for me. He has a "Science" section on the site. Give that a Looksy. Related ot the cow y'all might find this amusing: http://www.chicoer.com/features/ci_4327731 •••• Hippies!

09-22-2006, 02:07 PM	#65
Dwayne Holloway Member Profile: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Stevenson Ranch CA Posts: 85	Robb, I had a mouthful of TJ greentea when I saw the cow after Kevin asked you what a day looked like for your meals. It came out my nose. Great one! And Jesse, very quick Sir, I love that! Dwayne

09-22-2006, 02:17 PM	#66
Jesse Woody Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange Virginia Posts: 915	OK, I'm at the end of day 6 at the uber-low carb level. So far I've done great, with a couple of exceptions: 1. I got sick last week, super-stuffy nose, cough, sneezing etc. I'm not sure if it was some part of the metabolic shift that Di Pasquale talks about, or if my kids just brought something home. 2. I did the smart thing with my sickness and trained like an absolute beast. Pulled 355 on a deadlift with little warm-up (just ramp-up sets from 275) then immediately did 100 pull-ups in 6:54. Sore and sick the next day, I decided it would be a great time to do some Bulgarian-esque O-lift training. I followed that in the evening with some Gymnastics strength skills, then the next day, despite some horrible soreness, I did the 50 C&J workout. Now, surprising enough, I have a severely pulled left bicep tendon...ever heard of under-recovery? Unfortunately, I've felt so good so far with the reduced carbs that I took it a bit far...I have so much extra energy that I feel I should be working out 5 times a day...perhaps that would work if I didn't do 5 workouts at 110% I'm also going to tweak my fat composition, up my fish oil, cut back a bit on the saturated fats and start chugging the olive oil to see if I can get rid of some nagging inflammation. The dairy protein is also going to have to go. Rob, do you see anything else off-hand that could help with this that I haven't covered?

09-22-2006, 02:22 PM	#67
Kevin McKay Member Profile: Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: albany ca Posts: 1,110	How much lean meat is there on a hippie?

09-22-2006, 02:59 PM	#68
Kevin McKay Member Profile: Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: albany ca Posts: 1,110	Hey Rob, What is your take on fruit intake and fructose? How many pieces of fruit per day are too much? Thanks

09-22-2006, 03:01 PM	#69
Frank M Needham Member Profile: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 452	Thanks Rob, I'll check that out closely. Anyone know what "PETA" really stands for....? "People for Eating Tasty Animals"

09-23-2006, 06:27 AM	#70
Scott Kustes Member Profile: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 1,258	So how did the discussion turn out Robb?