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Old 06-01-2011, 06:59 AM   #1
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Goodbye, Food Pyramid... Hello, Food Pie!

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The 2010 White House Child Obesity Task Force called for simple, actionable advice to equip consumers with information to help them make healthy food choices. As a result, USDA will be introducing the new food icon to replace the MyPyramid image as the government's primary food group symbol. It will be an easy-to-understand visual cue to help consumers adopt healthy eating habits consistent with the 2010 Dietary Guidelines for Americans...

The circular plate, which will be unveiled Thursday, is meant to give consumers a fast, easily grasped reminder of the basics of a healthy diet. It consists of four colored sections, for fruits, vegetables, grains, and protein, according to several people who have been briefed on the change. Beside the plate is a smaller circle for dairy, suggesting a glass of low-fat milk or perhaps a yogurt cup.
I wonder if it will change any of the guidelines / macro-nutrient proportions?
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Old 06-01-2011, 07:57 AM   #2
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I wonder if it will change any of the guidelines / macro-nutrient proportions?
Now why would it do that?
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Old 06-01-2011, 08:19 AM   #3
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They do say:

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Enjoy your food, but eat less.
Avoid oversized portions.
I think it is probably profoundly challenging to convince the general public to change something like eating behavior, even when it is widely known to affect your health. Most Americans probably know that they should eat less and eat differently, but getting them to do so is a completely different matter.
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Old 06-01-2011, 08:31 AM   #4
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I think it is probably profoundly challenging to convince the general public to change something like eating behavior, even when it is widely known to affect your health. Most Americans probably know that they should eat less and eat differently, but getting them to do so is a completely different matter.
Absolutely not...they've been doing it for 50 years. By incorrectly telling people to avoid dietary saturated fat and cholesterol, the powers that be have created an entire population of people that are eating far too many grain based carbs, are hyperinsulinemic and insulin resistant.
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Old 06-01-2011, 08:40 AM   #5
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Re: Goodbye, Food Pyramid... Hello, Food Pie!

I don't think the shift away from saturated fat/cholesterol can be entirely attributed to the government's food pyramid, though. It is also due to economic conditions that make grains/processed foods/seed oils very cheap combined with some savvy marketing where Wonder Bread puts a big "Fat Free!" star on their white bread that uses HFCS as an ingredient. The government's role was certainly significant, but it isn't the only factor.
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Old 06-01-2011, 08:45 AM   #6
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I don't think the shift away from saturated fat/cholesterol can be entirely attributed to the government's food pyramid, though. It is also due to economic conditions that make grains/processed foods/seed oils very cheap combined with some savvy marketing where Wonder Bread puts a big "Fat Free!" star on their white bread that uses HFCS as an ingredient. The government's role was certainly significant, but it isn't the only factor.
Well it's multifactorial for sure, but most of those factors are in the governments hands...why are grains/seed oils so relatively inexpensive? The AHA and NHLBI while not strictly government agencies, are basically in control of 90% of grant money that's rewarded.
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Old 06-01-2011, 08:49 AM   #7
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Yeah, totally true. I guess my point is just that what the American population eats is probably not just the result of what they see on the food pyramid.
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:01 AM   #8
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Absolutely not...they've been doing it for 50 years. By incorrectly telling people to avoid dietary saturated fat and cholesterol, the powers that be have created an entire population of people that are eating far too many grain based carbs, are hyperinsulinemic and insulin resistant.
You're making the unfounded assumption that people actually eat what the government tells them to, in the quantities suggested. I don't think any edition of the government nutritional guidelines has ever recommended a diet centered around Coke and Twinkies.

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Old 06-01-2011, 09:03 AM   #9
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Well it's multifactorial for sure, but most of those factors are in the governments hands...why are grains/seed oils so relatively inexpensive?
Because Iowa, a major corn-producing state, hosts the nation's first presidential primary.

Although, FWIW, grains have been a relatively inexpensive source of calories pretty much ever since they were domesticated. That's why they've been so critical to civilization for thousands of years.

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Old 06-01-2011, 09:31 AM   #10
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I've probably posted about this before, but...there is a very apt book for children about a chicken who finds a grain of wheat. She asks all of the other farm animals for help in cultivating, growing, harvesting, and processing the wheat into flour. None of them will do any of the work to help her. She does it all by herself and makes a loaf of bread. Of course at this point, all of the other farm animals want a piece. She turns them down because they didn't do any of the hard work required to make the bread.

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