Is this safe?

Lisa Sanfilippo · 01-20-2006, 11:54 AM

Hello, I don't know much about cleansings or suppliments but was recently asked about www.isagenix.com . I have never heard of it. I am quoting what was being asked:
"this cleansing system is supposed to get rid of all of the toxins in your body, a friend lost 7 pounds in a week and another friend of mine has lost 9 and 19 inches. I was wondering if you would check it out and see if you think it is safe and even worth doing."
Is anyone knowledgable with any of this? I personally am not into supplements or "cleansing" for health and fitness. Zone eating and CrossFit has worked for me.
Any advice would be great.

Robert Wolf · 01-20-2006, 12:42 PM

Cleanses are a farce IMO. We have some very sophisticated detoxification machinery and all you need to do to make it "go" is have good amounts of veggies, protein and exercise.

Larry Lindenman · 01-20-2006, 02:56 PM

Amen!

Lisa Sanfilippo · 01-20-2006, 03:02 PM

Robb, I totally agree but I can not articulate why. Telling a teenage girl "this is ridiculous IMO and eat veg, protien and exercise" will not impact her the same as educating her. Would you mind elaborating a little? You are a wealth of knowledge and I really want to be able to explain why .

Brad Hirakawa · 01-20-2006, 07:06 PM

Ditto what Robb said..

A toxicology question… finally!!!

To my knowledge, the methods of “cleansing toxins” that are relatively safe/effective involve specific counteragents to specific toxicants, administered by a doctor, in a hospital, under very careful observation. Dialysis for kidney patients is another example off the top of my head.

Tell her that this supplement will possibly introduce more toxicants than it will eliminate, and that she would have better luck letting a few dozen big fat leeches suck on her (please don't tell her that, it was just a joke).

That link you posted does not look like a supplement company? Would you mind trying again?

Brad
Toxicologist, Safety Sciences... for big (really big) pharma

Lisa Sanfilippo · 01-21-2006, 08:14 AM

Toxicologist Brad,
Great, give me more info. on why it is even necessary to detox if at all.

www.isagenix.com not so concerned about the company as I am about the whole "cleansing" sham.

(Message edited by sanfilippo on January 21, 2006)

Timothy Hsu · 01-28-2008, 02:23 AM

How would you explain these athlete testimonials?
http://exfatboy.isagenix.com/us/en/s...athletes.dhtml

I have noticed that many of the products contain whey protein, though usually not in Zone ratios. Could the improved performance of these athletes be attributable to merely higher protein-to-carb intake, or might there be something else?

Paul Findley · 01-28-2008, 09:54 AM

"How would you explain these athlete testimonials?"

$?

Cal Jones · 01-28-2008, 10:19 AM

Eat food - not too much - mostly plants.

This stuff isn't food. Nuff said.

01-28-2008, 02:23 AM	#7
Timothy Hsu Member Profile: Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: South Pasadena CA Posts: 6	Re: Is this safe? How would you explain these athlete testimonials? http://exfatboy.isagenix.com/us/en/s...athletes.dhtml I have noticed that many of the products contain whey protein, though usually not in Zone ratios. Could the improved performance of these athletes be attributable to merely higher protein-to-carb intake, or might there be something else?

01-28-2008, 09:54 AM	#8
Paul Findley Member Profile: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Longmont CO Posts: 1,257	Re: Is this safe? "How would you explain these athlete testimonials?" $?

01-28-2008, 10:19 AM	#9
Cal Jones Member Profile: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London England Posts: 795	Re: Is this safe? Eat food - not too much - mostly plants. This stuff isn't food. Nuff said.

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01-20-2006, 11:54 AM	#1
Lisa Sanfilippo Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: McAlester OK Posts: 56	Hello, I don't know much about cleansings or suppliments but was recently asked about www.isagenix.com . I have never heard of it. I am quoting what was being asked: "this cleansing system is supposed to get rid of all of the toxins in your body, a friend lost 7 pounds in a week and another friend of mine has lost 9 and 19 inches. I was wondering if you would check it out and see if you think it is safe and even worth doing." Is anyone knowledgable with any of this? I personally am not into supplements or "cleansing" for health and fitness. Zone eating and CrossFit has worked for me. Any advice would be great.

01-20-2006, 12:42 PM	#2
Robert Wolf Member Profile: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chico CA Posts: 2,669	Cleanses are a farce IMO. We have some very sophisticated detoxification machinery and all you need to do to make it "go" is have good amounts of veggies, protein and exercise.

01-20-2006, 02:56 PM	#3
Larry Lindenman Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chicago Illinois Posts: 2,769	Amen!

01-20-2006, 03:02 PM	#4
Lisa Sanfilippo Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: McAlester OK Posts: 56	Robb, I totally agree but I can not articulate why. Telling a teenage girl "this is ridiculous IMO and eat veg, protien and exercise" will not impact her the same as educating her. Would you mind elaborating a little? You are a wealth of knowledge and I really want to be able to explain why .

01-20-2006, 07:06 PM	#5
Brad Hirakawa Member Profile: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 761	Ditto what Robb said.. A toxicology question… finally!!! To my knowledge, the methods of “cleansing toxins” that are relatively safe/effective involve specific counteragents to specific toxicants, administered by a doctor, in a hospital, under very careful observation. Dialysis for kidney patients is another example off the top of my head. Tell her that this supplement will possibly introduce more toxicants than it will eliminate, and that she would have better luck letting a few dozen big fat leeches suck on her (please don't tell her that, it was just a joke). That link you posted does not look like a supplement company? Would you mind trying again? Brad Toxicologist, Safety Sciences... for big (really big) pharma

01-21-2006, 08:14 AM	#6
Lisa Sanfilippo Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: McAlester OK Posts: 56	Toxicologist Brad, Great, give me more info. on why it is even necessary to detox if at all. www.isagenix.com not so concerned about the company as I am about the whole "cleansing" sham. (Message edited by sanfilippo on January 21, 2006)